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Official Terminator Season Two Spoiler Thread

i think that no one really "picked through" the debris, and that the body was just scooped by a bulldozer into a dump truck and dumped into the landfill, if anyone noticed it they probably thought it was a mass of twisted metal from the vault door

That's a plot hole I can dismiss even though it's debatable. I worked in the demolition/excavation field and I can assure you rubble are separated (metal/concrete/rock etc.), so I guess an endoskeleton wouldn't be unnoticed ;)
 
i think that no one really "picked through" the debris, and that the body was just scooped by a bulldozer into a dump truck and dumped into the landfill, if anyone noticed it they probably thought it was a mass of twisted metal from the vault door

That's a plot hole I can dismiss even though it's debatable. I worked in the demolition/excavation field and I can assure you rubble are separated (metal/concrete/rock etc.), so I guess an endoskeleton wouldn't be unnoticed ;)
Absolutely. The FBI and forensics investigators somehow failed to notice his headless endoskeleton in the bank debris. This endoskeleton should have ended up at Area 51 or some top-secret government lab for study. Instead, it conveniently ended up in a Los Angeles area dump site, unbothered for eight years and not too far from the skull's new location. Cromartie was amazingly lucky.
 
Then again I just had another thought.

We know Skynet has agents in the past doing its dirty work for it. What if there was a T-800/T-888 on the investigating team that made sure it wasn't detected?
 
Then again I just had another thought.

We know Skynet has agents in the past doing its dirty work for it. What if there was a T-800/T-888 on the investigating team that made sure it wasn't detected?

At that point, if the bank was known about, they could've just had a terminator there waiting to kill John. With an abundance of terminators, the holes in plot are accomplished much easier.

Also, Ellison said that no bodies were found, implying that the rubble was at least searched.
 
^ I meant what if they had sent a Terminator to make sure that the remains of Cromartie weren't detected by the humans.

Some new spoilers:

- Arnold's actual .45 long slide from The Terminator will be used.

- A famous location from the first film is being revisited. They won't specify which location, but it will appear in potentially more than one episode. Here's what was specifically said.

TERMINATORFILES:
There's a really cool thing. There's an episode coming up where we use a set that's been redressed--I won't say [what]--but it's a really famous set from the first movie and a very famous location from the first movie, [which] we use as a very significant location in one of the next few episodes. I won't say what it is, just because it's more fun that way. ... Our location scout called us up and said, "You're not going to believe where we can shoot." It's like, yeah! We're shooting there. We definitely do stuff. We have Arnie's original gun from the first movie in our show this year. The actual prop, yeah.

- More characters from the future will be appearing this season.

I think they're going to reshow the Tech Noir scenes - especially since the .45 long slide with laser sighting is making an appearance.

My ultimate hope would be for the original Cyberdyne Systems Building from the end of T1 (where they destroyed the T-800).
 
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The whore of Babylon rode a 7 headed dragon who seduced the seven kings of the world.

That reminds me of the "Yoshiwara" erotic dance scene in Fritz Lang's Metropolis (1927). I wonder if the TSCC folks might be channeling that film, especially given the common meme of an evil female impostor robot.
 
ooooh, the original longslide w/laser dot sight
wasn't the longslide sarah used to shoot dyson the same longslide with the laser taken off?
 
they may have been different, i don't remember if the longslide from 2 had the mounting rail but it had an odd sight picture to it, it looked cut down to accomidate an optics package
 
hey NX maybe you can clarify something more for me.

From TV.com
Shirley Mansons terminator is a t-1001. Due to rights issues, Friedman and the other showrunners must come up with "new" model numbers for the series not previously used in the films

and yet in this scifiwire article it seems that Friedman and others just like using new numbers
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=59731

The T-1001's number seems significant: Robert Patrick's T-1000 cyborg from the feature film Terminator 2: Judgment Day could only do so many things. Can Weaver's plus-one cyborg do more?

"You know, we have to switch all the numbers on them," said series creator Josh Friedman. "We like to have our own numbers. I wouldn't read more into the numbering system than is necessary."


Oh, so she doesn't have more abilities? Manson whispers in my ear: "Of course I do."

oh wait a minute they say "have to" instead of just feeling like making up new numbers
 
^ During the time of T3 I remember an interview that Jonathan Mostow did (I think it was with E!). In it he said that they had the rights to use the general story and the characters of John and Sarah Connor, but Cameron retained ownership over the T-800 and the T-1000. That was why the T-800 became the upgraded T-850.
 
^ During the time of T3 I remember an interview that Jonathan Mostow did (I think it was with E!). In it he said that they had the rights to use the general story and the characters of John and Sarah Connor, but Cameron retained ownership over the T-800 and the T-1000. That was why the T-800 became the upgraded T-850.

I wonder why T-800 is never mentioned on-screen, yet Cameron took ownership of the name. Reese never mentions the model in T1, only that it is a new model with sweat, bad breath, etc... He only mentions the 600 series if memory serves. In T2, Arnie identifies himself (itself?) as a Cyberdine Systems Model 101 and mentions, of course, the T-1000.

Does Cameron have rights on the T-600 name as well?
 
in the extended 'T-1000' edition of T2, Uncle Bob identifies himself as a T-800 Cyberdyne Systems Model 101.

the commentary for the DVD has Cameron say that a model 102 would look like someone completely different, the 101 model is the 'Arnie' look.
 
^ I meant what if they had sent a Terminator to make sure that the remains of Cromartie weren't detected by the humans.

I know, which is why I said it makes it sound like an overabundance of terminators. It just seems like if they really wanted to accomplish their job, they'd send all of them to kill John rather than doing a fairly menial task.
 
^ According to the producers there are more Terminators than we think in the past on various objectives for Skynet. If you remember too in Season One Cameron tells John that the Terminators are being sent back with their own individual assignments, but if they learn they've encountered John Connor it overrides all their other programming.

TVGuide has an interview with our new T-1001.
 
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