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Official Final Typhon Pact blurbs
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Back on topic, I think the first book intrigues me mostly because I always wanted to see some further expansion of the Breen. Not too much to spoil the mystery but at least something on their government, society and culture. Plus, it seems to be a spy novel so I think it would be an interesting read. *puts book down on list to read*
The other book that catches my interest is the Romulan one. I personally hope we get to see more of Romulan politics and society in it. So political factions and the like would be awesome for me to see. Last time I did that though was during Captain's Blood which I got slightly disappointed with as I was hoping it would be a Romulan focused novel and it kind of deviated from what I envisioned.
I am also interested to see what each of the Pact members contribute to one another. Not saying they are all best friends and share meals together but I would imagine that they would share something be it to technology or industrial bases so hopefully get to see some Typhon Pact politics.
The other book that catches my interest is the Romulan one. I personally hope we get to see more of Romulan politics and society in it. So political factions and the like would be awesome for me to see. Last time I did that though was during Captain's Blood which I got slightly disappointed with as I was hoping it would be a Romulan focused novel and it kind of deviated from what I envisioned.
I am also interested to see what each of the Pact members contribute to one another. Not saying they are all best friends and share meals together but I would imagine that they would share something be it to technology or industrial bases so hopefully get to see some Typhon Pact politics.
Now...on the Romulan book. Apparently, Ambassador Spock is in this one.
Should we expect any updates on the status of the Unification movement?
Should we expect any updates on the status of the Unification movement?
(My current fanfic is assuming that the Romulan government is getting this close to stepping up efforts to purge the movement--and that Spock is trying to secure assylum for the members with Empress Donatra. Just saying.)
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Some of this is in A Singular Destiny if you haven't read that book yet.
Thank you. 
^Fascinating....
But surely he would work to establish a relationship with Donatra. It would only be logical, considering the increased hostility the RSE has with the Federation....
Surely, in the interests of furthering relations with Donatra's State....
But surely he would work to establish a relationship with Donatra. It would only be logical, considering the increased hostility the RSE has with the Federation....
Surely, in the interests of furthering relations with Donatra's State....
Erm..isn't Spock's reunification mission moot?
Romulus dies along with the majority of the Romulan people. Spock's reunification mission fails.
Spock ends up in an alternate 2258 and Vulcan dies. No one to reunify the Romulans with. Double fail.
I'm sure a few Romulan colonies survived the Hobus supernova, but it can't be more than a few hundred thousand people in total. The mission would be "take in refugees" rather than "reunify our people".
I know the book is set five years before all that, but doesn't knowing the end result kinda kill all the "ohh he's working in the open on Romulus now" (as seen in the STXI mind meld) joy?
Not to put a downer on things.
Romulus dies along with the majority of the Romulan people. Spock's reunification mission fails.
Spock ends up in an alternate 2258 and Vulcan dies. No one to reunify the Romulans with. Double fail.
I'm sure a few Romulan colonies survived the Hobus supernova, but it can't be more than a few hundred thousand people in total. The mission would be "take in refugees" rather than "reunify our people".
I know the book is set five years before all that, but doesn't knowing the end result kinda kill all the "ohh he's working in the open on Romulus now" (as seen in the STXI mind meld) joy?
Not to put a downer on things.
What??? Where in the hell did you get the idea that this society that's been an interstellar civilization for two thousand years has only a few hundred thousand people living off the homeworld? That doesn't make any sense. Especially in the context of the book continuity, where there's a large enough population off of Romulus that half the empire's worlds can split off and form a rival Imperial Romulan State.
And in the wake of the disaster, the surviving Romulan civilization might need reunification with Vulcan to help strengthen it. If anything, I'd say the prospects for reunification are improved. Assuming, of course, that the majority of Romulans don't irrationally blame the Vulcans for Romulus' destruction as Nero did.
It's late and I'm tired. But here's my sleepy reasoning:
I had the impression that the Imperial State was quite small, but those in it were quite powerful and had many resources at their disposal.
Diane Duane's books (not exactly the modern accepted take on things I know, but etched into my brain) told me that Romulan colony worlds are run by small groups of Romulans overseeing the local native populations, and that others are sparsely-populated farming worlds.
A few other novels (like Crossover - I know, not part of the continuity either) depicted Romulan military bases with relatively small staffs on otherwise empty worlds.
Thus half the worlds can split off, which looks cool on a colour-coded space map, but the numbers of actual Romulans outside the home system can be relatively small.
100,000 was a little low. Maybe 500,000 or a million, tops?
I had the impression that the Imperial State was quite small, but those in it were quite powerful and had many resources at their disposal.
Diane Duane's books (not exactly the modern accepted take on things I know, but etched into my brain) told me that Romulan colony worlds are run by small groups of Romulans overseeing the local native populations, and that others are sparsely-populated farming worlds.
A few other novels (like Crossover - I know, not part of the continuity either) depicted Romulan military bases with relatively small staffs on otherwise empty worlds.
Thus half the worlds can split off, which looks cool on a colour-coded space map, but the numbers of actual Romulans outside the home system can be relatively small.
100,000 was a little low. Maybe 500,000 or a million, tops?
^I still don't think you're getting what an empire is. It's not a heavily populated homeland and a bunch of sparse colonies. An empire is one political entity ruling over multiple other political entities, controlling a far greater quantity of people, resources, and wealth than the home region alone could contain.
in reply to KingDaniel^^ see that dosnt really even jibe with balance of terror. in it listening to the centurion and the commander it sounds like they have spent decades fighting other battles for the empire.
to me it made it sound like this vast place with only part of it near the federation border. that they started conquering and expanding away after that.
there are also hints in tng they had a fairly large empire.
to me it made it sound like this vast place with only part of it near the federation border. that they started conquering and expanding away after that.
there are also hints in tng they had a fairly large empire.
I would think--and you can quote me on this--I would think that after Romulus "Rests In Pieces", Donatra would probably sieze the opportunity to fill in the vacuum, annexing the remnant of the RSE.
But anyhow--again, it would only be logical for Spock to form a good relationship with Donatra, if only to get her to grant safe haven for the members of the movement who need it.
But anyhow--again, it would only be logical for Spock to form a good relationship with Donatra, if only to get her to grant safe haven for the members of the movement who need it.
Though as Daniel points out, a lot of those people in the Empire wouldn't actually be Romulans...
Re: Picard's a father
I know what an empire is, and I'm sure there are as-yet-unseen starfaring Romulan underling races. It's just we've never had any hints of any densely populated Romulan worlds (as in, populated by Romulans) other than Romulus (and Remus, before it was rewritten as a hell-hole full of mutant offshoot Remans). I know it doesn't mean such worlds don't exist. I just don't think they do.
IIRC many Romulans from old books working on off-world bases tend to fall into the "I want off this lousy assignment and back to Romulus" camp. Perhaps living and working on Romulus is seen as some sort of status symbol.
I know what an empire is, and I'm sure there are as-yet-unseen starfaring Romulan underling races. It's just we've never had any hints of any densely populated Romulan worlds (as in, populated by Romulans) other than Romulus (and Remus, before it was rewritten as a hell-hole full of mutant offshoot Remans). I know it doesn't mean such worlds don't exist. I just don't think they do.
IIRC many Romulans from old books working on off-world bases tend to fall into the "I want off this lousy assignment and back to Romulus" camp. Perhaps living and working on Romulus is seen as some sort of status symbol.
Re: Picard's a father
I prefer the idea from "All Good Things" (and I think "Endgame" too) that the Klingons have annexed Romulan space, presumably (with what know after STXI) after the Romulan homeworlds were destroyed. This doesn't have to lead quite to the all-out war from Star Trek Online, just the extremely strained and failing Klingon/Federation relations as seen in the TNG and VOY finales.
Perhaps the IRS isn't conquered when/if the Klingons invade (not that I think there'll even be an Imperial State by 2387)?
I prefer the idea from "All Good Things" (and I think "Endgame" too) that the Klingons have annexed Romulan space, presumably (with what know after STXI) after the Romulan homeworlds were destroyed. This doesn't have to lead quite to the all-out war from Star Trek Online, just the extremely strained and failing Klingon/Federation relations as seen in the TNG and VOY finales.
Perhaps the IRS isn't conquered when/if the Klingons invade (not that I think there'll even be an Imperial State by 2387)?
^Really? I hardly think Donatra's going anywhere....
^^Define "huge". Millions? Tens of millions? Billions? I'm afraid all I remember from that book is that quarter-Bajoran folk singer/professor/diplomat guy, wrecked planets, a casualty list, a Ferengi woman and some (easily replicated?) Typhon Pact gemstone money.
I'm kinda starting to remember a dumpy city on a Romulan planet in Crossover, which was where Spock and his peeps were captured in the first place. I can't remember if it was exclusively populated by Romulans, though, or if they ruled a local spiecies. Considering the "follow the canon!" era in which the book was written I'd guess it was only Romulans on that planet. But was there more than one city?
I have a feeling we'll see a Romulan reunification, perhaps even by force, prior to 2387. It might be because there was no hint at a Romulan schism in STXI or Countdown (yeah, Countdown isn't neccesarily the future of the novels, I know).
I'm kinda starting to remember a dumpy city on a Romulan planet in Crossover, which was where Spock and his peeps were captured in the first place. I can't remember if it was exclusively populated by Romulans, though, or if they ruled a local spiecies. Considering the "follow the canon!" era in which the book was written I'd guess it was only Romulans on that planet. But was there more than one city?
I have a feeling we'll see a Romulan reunification, perhaps even by force, prior to 2387. It might be because there was no hint at a Romulan schism in STXI or Countdown (yeah, Countdown isn't neccesarily the future of the novels, I know).
