Are we sure that Ben Stein actually wrote that? Look at this portion of the Snopes article. You'll notice that some of the exact text that Stein supposedly wrote is actually from a much earlier source:
The following snippet harvested from a 2002 embellishment of the 2001 remarks on the September 11 tragedy offered by the daughter of evangelist Billy Graham provides an example of the context in which this rumor is often promulgated:
Then, Dr Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide) and we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we said OK.
So either that whole piece quoted in this thread is an urban legend itself and was not actually written by Stein at all, or he was quoting someone else when he wrote it. FWIW.
Don't be so hard on yourself. I wouldn't say you jumped the shark in this thread; you just didn't examine the situation well enough.
Don't be so hard on yourself. I wouldn't say you jumped the shark in this thread; you just didn't examine the situation well enough.
I was referring to the thread itself. But thanks for the snarky remarks... again, very telling.
I am done arguing in this thread... but I do respond to personal attacks and snarky remarks. One more, and sidious will be the proud winner of a report to the Mods.![]()
In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Out of interest - do many people in America know about the Bath School Massacre which occurred more than 80 years ago? It believe it is the worst massacre at a school in American history though the murderer used bombs not guns.
That's great, and as it should be. Again, I don't know anyone who is actually offended by being genuinely wished a Merry Christmas in good spirit. However, that kind, friendly sentiment of togetherness doesn't go both ways if you also have a problem with people saying Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings, which is the only thing I've ever seen someone (Christians) actually get upset by.
That's great, and as it should be. Again, I don't know anyone who is actually offended by being genuinely wished a Merry Christmas in good spirit. However, that kind, friendly sentiment of togetherness doesn't go both ways if you also have a problem with people saying Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings, which is the only thing I've ever seen someone (Christians) actually get upset by.
I'm a little bit annoyed by people saying "merry christmas" to me because it kind of feels like someone wishing me "happy birthday" when it's his own birthday and not mine.
Are we sure that Ben Stein actually wrote that? Look at this portion of the Snopes article. You'll notice that some of the exact text that Stein supposedly wrote is actually from a much earlier source:
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So either that whole piece quoted in this thread is an urban legend itself and was not actually written by Stein at all, or he was quoting someone else when he wrote it. FWIW.
Or Stein's a plagiarist in addition to being a mendacious cretin, which certainly is not beyond likelihood.
someone wishing me "happy birthday" when it's his own birthday and not mine.
Don't blow my anecdotal evidence, man.![]()
Yeah, and I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Veteran's Day because I'm not a veteran. And I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Columbus Day because I'm not Columbus. And I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Halloween because I'm not a Zombie... or something.I'm a little bit annoyed by people saying "merry christmas" to me because it kind of feels like someone wishing me "happy birthday" when it's his own birthday and not mine.
Yeah, and I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Veteran's Day because I'm not a veteran. And I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Columbus Day because I'm not Columbus. And I get offended when somebody wishes me a happy Halloween because I'm not a Zombie... or something.I'm a little bit annoyed by people saying "merry christmas" to me because it kind of feels like someone wishing me "happy birthday" when it's his own birthday and not mine.
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