Well, Zucker did get him arrested for the first prank. I say that was pretty deserving of a follow-up.
O'Brien out, Leno back in?
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Remember back in the 1980's when Joe Montana got nailed hard and was on the sidelines for several games and his backup Steve Young came in and took over the team. Montana comes back into the picture, however Young is now the star, and there is no room for two stars. Montana went to Kansas City for two forgettable years, while Young stayed on for many more.
There is no room for three TV shows of basically the same thing. Someone, either Leno or Conan has to leave NBC. It is as simple as that.
Leno should pack it in and retire or go to another network. Conan should be given the Tonight Show to do as he wishes. Conan O'Brien is the future. He's only 46. Letterman is about 63 and will return sooner or later. Jay will be 60 this year. These guys, especially Letterman are going to hang it up sooner or later. Letterman has had health problems, is old with a little kid he probably wants to spend time with, and probably wants to get away from the spotlight.
Scenerio: Letterman retires by 2013, with no replacement groomed. Who would take over, Craig Kilbourn? That stupd Brit from "The Drew Carey Show"? Drew Carey himself? (well, that might be cool).
Jay Leno's show more or less flops on FOX, and/or he heads of to Vegas. Probably Leno is going to be semi-retired and maybe doing specials or Vegas. I think he likes performing and will do it to some degree until he is dead.
Conan O'Brien will be the "King of Late Night", with no competition.
That Jeff Zucker guy is a complete idiot. Zucker, f**k you for cancelling "My Name is Earl." May Randy find you and fart on your head.
There is no room for three TV shows of basically the same thing. Someone, either Leno or Conan has to leave NBC. It is as simple as that.
Leno should pack it in and retire or go to another network. Conan should be given the Tonight Show to do as he wishes. Conan O'Brien is the future. He's only 46. Letterman is about 63 and will return sooner or later. Jay will be 60 this year. These guys, especially Letterman are going to hang it up sooner or later. Letterman has had health problems, is old with a little kid he probably wants to spend time with, and probably wants to get away from the spotlight.
Scenerio: Letterman retires by 2013, with no replacement groomed. Who would take over, Craig Kilbourn? That stupd Brit from "The Drew Carey Show"? Drew Carey himself? (well, that might be cool).
Jay Leno's show more or less flops on FOX, and/or he heads of to Vegas. Probably Leno is going to be semi-retired and maybe doing specials or Vegas. I think he likes performing and will do it to some degree until he is dead.
Conan O'Brien will be the "King of Late Night", with no competition.
That Jeff Zucker guy is a complete idiot. Zucker, f**k you for cancelling "My Name is Earl." May Randy find you and fart on your head.
From later in the article:
Um, no, O'Brien comes across as the mean-spirited jerk. Turning the guy's dorm phone number into a sex line...? Not cool, Conan...
The phrase "mean-spirited" needs to be banned. It gives the person who uses it the appearance of being an uptight, Puritanical busy-body.
Sounds like the typical kind of stuff college boys/men do. I hope I *NEVER* get to be as old as you, Snaploud. And for the record, I will be 41 next week.
Think about it.
It's actually not clear what order the pranks were in (and it sounds like there may have been more of them). The phone sex prank is well and good, but stealing the paper was going too far.
I wonder too what role tradition played in that little exchange at Harvard? Is it the norm for the Lampoon editor to screw around with the newspaper editor?
^^^Being in college doesn't give you the right to harass people. As for that making me "uptight" or "puritanical": baloney. I'm fine with adults doing whatever makes them happy as long as all affected parties are consenting.
Treating people with "respect" has nothing to do with age, buddy.
Treating people with "respect" has nothing to do with age, buddy.
Here's an article from the Harvard Crimson from 2000 talking about Conan...it specifically mentions that the Lampoon is "legendary" for its pranks and that when Conan was in charge, they did all kinds...heck, I doubt that Zucker was a "special" target or anything...pranking is just what the Lampoon folks did all the time...
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2000/6/7/poonster-gets-the-last-laugh-pconan/
It's not like Harvard expelled Conan for any of these stunts, which gives me the impression that they expect these kind of antics from their students, particularly from the Lampoon folks...
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2000/6/7/poonster-gets-the-last-laugh-pconan/
It's not like Harvard expelled Conan for any of these stunts, which gives me the impression that they expect these kind of antics from their students, particularly from the Lampoon folks...
Then you were never a teenager then?
I found this blurb too...from the NY Daily News on 7/24/02...I'm guessing this is from when Zucker joined NBC?
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives.../2002-07-24_rights___wrongs___carefully_.html
(Can anyone tell I'm bored at work today?
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http://www.nydailynews.com/archives.../2002-07-24_rights___wrongs___carefully_.html
(Can anyone tell I'm bored at work today?
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Apparently not the kind of others on this board... *shrugs*
I stand by my opinion. Conan deserved to pay for the lost papers and at the very least serve some major community service hours for the sex ad.
None of which has anything to do with whether or not Conan should have The Tonight Show taken away from him.
It's a newspaper. Who cares?
Leaving aside the time and effort involved: newspapers cost money to be written, edited, and printed, and there are advertiser contracts that need to be fulfilled.
Here is a NY Times article about when Leno was going to be moved to 12:30, but threatened to quit. In 1992.
Quote from the "I could have sworn it was from yesterday" Department:
Douchebag.
Quote from the "I could have sworn it was from yesterday" Department:
Jay Leno said:
Jay Leno said:
Douchebag.
It's an entire run of a newspaper. And the Crimson isn't a little amateur college paper. It's a pretty major operation involving the work of a lot of people - I'd wager a lot of people cared.
Edited for accuracy.
But it isn't like the Lampoon staff stole it and destroyed it...the article clearly states that the police had them return the papers to the Crimson. I doubt that they'd have gone as far as to actually destroy the papers. It was a prank, not a sabotage attempt...
Perusing other articles about the Harvard Lampoon, they've been swiping stuff from the Crimson for 125+ years...it's just the rivalry...
And the point of posting that info in the first place was just to add an interesting wrinkle that might (or might not) have bearing on how Zucker is handling the whole situation...