Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]
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Okay, that's it. Thanks. I just wasn't able to dredge all that up.
He literally says it. "Your suffering is just beginning."
I get the desire to have Hayden involved and I'm not opposed to it, but the guy just isn't buff enough to fill out the Vader suit, and suited-up Vader doesn't use his voice, either. They need to start putting someone tall, with some muscle in the Vader suit. Hayden can do the unmasked / unsuited stuff.
And he doesn't.
Of course we are. It's already been part of tearing ROTS apart is Hayden's lack of striking the same style as Prowse by crossing his arms.
I think the reason it's so weirdly convoluted has to do with the character predating the prequels, and the assumption back then was that Anakin was closer in age to Ben, and that the whole clone wars/purge thing happened way earlier, so Corran being the grandson of a Jedi felt more sensible. Then the Prequels arrived and the EU started frantically retconning itself to make it all still fit. Could be mistaken though.
Assuming for a second that it's more than just an easter egg (which it most likely isn't) I suspect if they're really going to use the character in canon, they'll streamline the story a bit. Just make Valin an Order 66 survivor same as Cal, Kanan, Ahsoka, etc. and that he fathered a child a year or three later while in hiding, and that's the kid was saw in episode 2. Maybe Valin makes it, maybe not. The fact that he's not with Corran and Scerra (and would have seen right through Haja) makes me think he's either dead, or in hiding elsewhere. Indeed it's entirely possible Valin doesn't even know Corran exists as he had to flee before either of them knew Scerra was pregnant.
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Hayden isn't in the suit for full body shots
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLe...der_performance_artist_hayden_is_not_in_suit/
I assumed as much. There's like two different stunt specialists plus a stand-in that plays Dyn in addition to Pedro Pascal, so I can't see any good reason why they wouldn't take the same approach here.
The only thing I will say that looked a bit off was when he was sat on the throne, though I think that had more to do with a combination of the seat itself not being high enough, and that the suit was never designed to be see sitting. Indeed I think the latter is the reason why they had him in the lotus position in the tESB meditation pod scenes.
That's been a problem; Prowse not only had the physique, but a distinctive walk (what might be called a swagger from time to time) and way of doing everything because his face and body was covered. That had much to do with the visual impact / success of Vader as anything else. Suited-up Christensen never had that physique or presence in ROTS or this series.
I dunno, isn't this supposed to be a younger Vader than we're used to? He still has about another decade or so to gain more weight, IMO. Right now, he probably still has Anakin Skywalker's physique.
Vader looks large and imposing in this. I don't get what the deal is?
I'm curious how he would react if he found out Leia was his daughter and used as a pawn to bring out Kenobi. Would he appreciate Reva's cunning and gratitude for not only providing him with his former mentor but also his child, or would he go absolutely apeshit for her life being endangered?
I'm curious how he would react if he found out Leia was his daughter and used as a pawn to bring out Kenobi. Would he appreciate Reva's cunning and gratitude for not only providing him with his former mentor but also his child, or would he go absolutely apeshit for her life being endangered?
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How much of a shock would he have at this point that Padme and his daughter is alive when as far as he knows, Padme died, as did the child (he didn't know he had twins until just before he died).
And that is on top of Obi-wan being found and having hid Anakin's daughter.
In the comics, he nearly destroyed the viewport of his Star Destroyer just by Boba Fett telling him the name of the rebel that destroyed Death Star, Skywalker.
And that is on top of Obi-wan being found and having hid Anakin's daughter.
In the comics, he nearly destroyed the viewport of his Star Destroyer just by Boba Fett telling him the name of the rebel that destroyed Death Star, Skywalker.
So that‘s where Kylo got it from.
Which would barely make a difference - in universe, Vader's "physique" is mostly cybernetic. Some gains possible around the pecs and upper back, possibly, but most of any workout isn't impacting flesh and blood.
Part 3 of Kenobi says otherwise. We saw that most of his limbs are cybernetic, but they were attached to a flesh and blood torso.
I had no problems with Hayden Christensen in the Vader suit in ROTS and I certainly don't have any problems with him in the Vader suit in "Obi-Wan Kenobi". Frankly, the complaint sounds superficial to me. And he still managed to be rather scary to me in the latest episode.
I am curious as to how the writers will deal with the Grand Inquisitor situation. Although to be honest, I don't really care. I was never a fan of the character to begin with. Aside from that I am enjoying the series so far. For me, one of the best parts was this latest Obi-Wan/Vader duel. It was interesting to see how Obi-Wan's mental state had led him to lose that fight. Just as how Anakin's mental state in "ROTS" led him to lose the Mustafar duel in a different way. Talk about circle of life.
Is "Obi-Wan Kenobi" a sign that Disney Lucasfilm is finally learning how to write for a serialized drama? I don't know. It's already in trouble over the Grand Inquisitor situation. And I don't know how Episodes Four to Six will play out.
Some people have speculated that he survives because Pau'ans have two stomachs.
As others have pointed out, the injuries done to Maul and Vader, who both survived, were far more serious than a saber-thrust straight through the gut. For that matter, Boba Fett survived being swallowed by the Sarlaac as well, so I'm thinking all the Grand Inquisitor really needs is a length dunk in the bacta tank.
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