Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

[thribs]

It wouldn’t be Maul because he an Obi-Wan don’t see each other between the Clone Wars and Rebels. You could do it but they couldn’t interact and so what would be the point of bring him in?

The actress playing young Leia is the most adorable little actress since the girl who plays Judith on the Walking Dead.

They would find some way. If Star Trek can do it, so can they.
Besides… it’s just Rebels. Just ignore it.

I agree about the girl. She’s awesome. I can see Young Anakin and Padme in her.
I could see why Obi Wan would want to contact Qui Gun. He’s a man of many skills after all.

 

[CorporalClegg]

That was incredible. I was literally at the edge of my seat for the last third of the second episode. I'm still shaking a little. I can't think of a time a show/movie had me this rattled outside of horror.

And, yeah, little Leia was totes adorbs. I think the only way they could have done better with the casting is if they got that little girl Debbie Reynolds used to bring out on stage.

 

[Tuskin38]

Hah, they finally found a place to shove that Porsche co-designed starship.

The Tri-Wing Leia spots when she’s in the tree.

R2 and C-3PO cameos that feel organic.Not really shoved in your face. They’re just there in the background like a couple of extras.

 

[thribs]

So with the surprise that Leia and her adopted dad being in this, I wonder if we will see Baron Frankenstein, Peter Cushing again?

 

[Romulan_spy]

Honestly, I thought the pacing was off. The first half of part 1 seemed a bit slow to me. Did we need repeat scenes of Obi Wan in the "meat packing plant" job taking a piece of meat or repeat scenes of Obi Wan travelling slowly though the desert or sitting in a cave?

Also, I found the Inquisitors to be a bit incompetent. Why the in-fighting? Why let the young Jedi go and then kill him later as an example? Some of their actions did not seem to make sense to me.

Young Leia was definitely channeling her mother and her future self with how brash and bold she was. I liked that. And I thought the scene with Obi Wan telling young Leia that she reminded him of someone (Padme) was very touching.

The world-building is great. Ewan McGregor is great too. I am glad to see this part of Obi-wan's life and how it shapes what we will see later in A New Hope.

Overall, I liked it. I just hope that they have enough story for, what is it, 6 episodes? I hope we don't get a situation like Book of Bobba Fet where episodes kinda dragged on until everything is resolved in the finale.

 

[Reverend]

Somehow that was so much better than I was expecting (and my expectations were already high!)

So Tatooine has giant sand manta-rays? I guess it makes sense, what with it once being an ocean world, and with all the settlements seemingly so close together, relatively speaking, the majority of the surface is probably open dunes. Plenty of room for all kinds of megafauna. Plus I suppose for the krayt dragons to get so big there must be something comparatively large for them to prey upon. Which I guess means that sand plankton or the like are also a thing?

An old, bearded Temura Morrison in 501st armour? Oh, soooo close! Hell of a way to show what happened to the clones, and indeed how the Empire treats it's own people; an old CT veteran begging in the streets as the TKs walk past utterly ignoring him.

I was a bit surprised that Reva knows who Vader is. Perhaps all the Inquisitors know, one way or another? An open secret, so to speak? Curious to see why she's so fixated on Obi-Wan, specifically. We see her and a bunch of others fleeing through the temple during Order 66; was she still there when Kenobi and Yoda returned? Did she see them, but they left before she could get to them, and was captured?
Is it possible Obi-Wan was set to become her Master right before this all went down? He seemed almost eager to take on a new apprentice at the start of the Clone Wars, so it seemed odd that he never did. Maybe when Ahsoka left he felt compelled to come through on that intention, and he chose Reva? That would certainly explain the resentment!

Though the possibility did occur to me, I never thought we'd get so much Alderaan and Leia in this. It's nice to finally see more of Alderaan, and I like how they're characterising Leia. Just like Luke she's very much a 50/50 split between Anakin & Padme's personalities (and 100% Carrie's attitude!)

One question however: why did Bail go to Obi-Wan first? Why insist after he turned him down? Bail has Ahsoka on the payroll after all, you'd think she would at least be his second choice, even if she doesn't fully understand *why* Leia is so important. I mean I get *why* he went to Obi-Wan because otherwise; no story (plus in Rebels she seemed like she thought Obi-Wan was gone.) It's just it seems as though Bail really didn't have an alternate option. Hell if anything Ahsoka would be better at this since she's spent 15 years navigating exactly this kind of ecosystem, whereas Kenobi has been sitting in a cave feeling sorry for himself the whole time.
To be clear: I'm not saying Ahsoka should be in this, I'm just curious what the thinking is behind the scenes is as to how to keep her out of this.

Oh BTW here's a big easter egg for the EU fans: that kid being smuggled to Corellia because of his force sensitivity is listed in the credits as "Corran". A much deeper cut was the mention of Merson Pirates, a reference to a very early comic story that features Leia recounting the tale of one of Kenobi's old exploits. Very appropriate! Even deeper still was the Aquillian Ranger name drop; a reference to an early draft of ANH (2nd, I think?) as a group of laser sword wielding force users separate from both the Jedi and the Sith Knights, though still fighting alongside the rebels. Even seen that Ralph McQuarrie painting of Vader fighting someone wearing a gas mask looking thing? That's supposed to be an Aquillian Ranger (Deak Starkiller IIRC.)

Also I'm reasonably sure that the "I was someone's daughter once" girl pushing spice was Ewan's actual daughter.

 

[Moist_Cake]

I watched the 1st ep and going to watch the 2nd after posting this.

I love the plot. It was unexpected. And I am hoping this is what triggers Leia's hatred for the empire. Maybe we will get another series with her in her late teens. Just starting out as a part of the rebellion.

And of course Flea!

 

[StarMan]

It was entertaining; little drag at the beginning of the second episode, but the last few minutes more than made up for it.

Third Sister isn't overly compelling - I'm assuming one of the Younglings from the beginning.

No surprise McGregor and Smits both put in great performances.

So yeah, pretty good. I was looking forward to this without any hype - little burnt out on all the juggernaut franchises in general, to be fair.

 

[Jedi Marso]

I watched the first one, and won't have time for the second until later tonight.

Initial take: Cool to see Obi-wan again, obviously. It was hard seeing him have to turn away a fellow Jedi on the run. We knew exactly why he had to do it, and what it probably cost him, especially when he saw the end result.

Third Sister zeroing in on Owen the way she did was just a bad plot contrivance. Total bunk.

Owen is a great character. Joel Edgerton is even channeling that gruff Lars voice.

Don't like how the focus of this story is clearly Third Sister rather than Kenobi, right from the opening scene in the Jedi temple. Once again, thanks, Disney. Can't even let the man be the lead in his own show.

Child-Leia and her cutsie droid Lola is typical Disney-Princess cringe to the 5th power. It has the potential to tank this whole production. The sassy girl-power girl[TM] who is smarter than all the adults, more savvy, fearless, resourceful, and a sarcastic smartass. Be still my beating heart.

 

[Reverend]

Also, I found the Inquisitors to be a bit incompetent. Why the in-fighting? Why let the young Jedi go and then kill him later as an example? Some of their actions did not seem to make sense to me.

He's a small fry. More useful to the Grand Inquisitor in an interrogation cell where he might give up the location of others. Even on the loose they can find him again, and the trail he leaves could also lead them to others. Indeed, he almost did! Reva was just being impatient.
As for being strung up: I'm 90% sure it was some of the locals that lynched him. The Inquisitors were already off world and gone by then.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

So going forward, I see this will be on Wednesdays. Is it normal for them to switch days?

Nice to see that, at least for now, we'll see the story of l'il Leia as well as l'il Luke. Tho IMDB (I know, I know) only lists Luke for 2 episodes and Leia for 6.

Also cool that we have the same actors for Owen, Beru and Bail.

 

[Reverend]

So going forward, I see this will be on Wednesdays. Is it normal for them to switch days?

It was originally slated to be out on the 25th. Presumably they just held the premier back two days so that it coincided with Celebration.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It was originally slated to be out on the 25th. Presumably they just held the premier back two days so that it coincided with Celebration.

Makes sense.

 

[Seven of Five]

I really enjoyed that, on the whole. I thought little Leia was adorable.

The world-building was good, and the last part of the second episode with Vader has me excited for next week.

I'm not sure if I gel properly with the Third Sister yet, but the fact that Obi-Wan is being hunted down is a good angle to follow. He's not the same person as he was at the end of ROTS.

The cameo from R2-D2 and C3PO was cute.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

So with the surprise that Leia and her adopted dad being in this, I wonder if we will see Baron Frankenstein, Peter Cushing again?

You mean more high school-level CG Tarkin? Pass.

Honestly, I thought the pacing was off. The first half of part 1 seemed a bit slow to me. Did we need repeat scenes of Obi Wan in the "meat packing plant" job taking a piece of meat or repeat scenes of Obi Wan travelling slowly though the desert or sitting in a cave?

The pacing was off. The attempt was to illustrate the drudgery of Kenobi's day-to-day, and how he's sort of divorced himself from being a Jedi, but it was too on the nose at points.

Also, I found the Inquisitors to be a bit incompetent. Why the in-fighting? Why let the young Jedi go and then kill him later as an example? Some of their actions did not seem to make sense to me.

A number of things about that:

One--the series is trying--in a rather heavy-handed manner--to parallel similar dissension / alleged allies plotting against each other like top Sith.

Two--You're correct by noting that some of their actions did not make sense. Top of that list was the G.I.--he clearly knew and repeatedly called out Reva for her plotting / duplicitous nature, yet at no point did he simply confine her to a ship or send her back to HQ. Nope, she constantly broke the chain of command, plotted for her own gain and ultimately murdered her leader. While some might be quick to say "That's what Sith do!", the point is that the G.I. should have controlled the entire situation by detaining her, not browbeat/insult her...but let her move about freely. Bad plotting in that case.

Young Leia was definitely channeling her mother and her future self with how brash and bold she was. I liked that. And I thought the scene with Obi Wan telling young Leia that she reminded him of someone (Padme) was very touching.

I found part of the writing of young Leia trying waaayy too hard to scream, "See? She's going to grow up to be that character you will see next in A New Hope!" The problem with that is children go through many changes and are not simply younger versions of their adult selves. One has to assume that the character as developed by Fisher in the OT was the product of experiencing many character-shaping events which made her even more resistant to the growth/corruption of the Empire, so her younger version need not show too many traits/behavior patterns of the adult. I'm hoping the writers did not do that with Luke.

The world-building is great. Ewan McGregor is great too. I am glad to see this part of Obi-wan's life and how it shapes what we will see later in A New Hope.

Yes, McGregor effortlessly stepped back into the role. I also appreciated Joel Edgerton's building on Owen, and his contentious relationship with Obi-Wan.

Overall, I liked it. I just hope that they have enough story for, what is it, 6 episodes? I hope we don't get a situation like Book of Bobba Fet where episodes kinda dragged on until everything is resolved in the finale.

One can only hope.

 

[Reverend]

Side note: who wants to place odds that we're in for ANOTHER Order 66 scene?

*coughs*

. . . Seriously though; I'm not mad about it, but how many damn times are we going to have to relive that particular trauma? On the plus side it's always fun to see Ming Qiu in action. Her character even got a name in the credits and everything!

For those that don't recognise the name, she was Ming Na Wen's stunt double through most of 'Agents of SHIELD', and later in 'Mandalorian' & 'Book of Boba Fett'. Also in a weird roundabout connection to Inquisitors, one of her earliest gigs was as a Vampire Slayer on Buffy (the one Spike killed in thw Boxer Rebellion) and a million things in between.

 

[Booji]

The first two eps were frickin awesome. I did not expect to see little Leia at all, but it makes perfect sense story wise in getting Obi-Wan off Tatooine. The girl they cast is doing an excellent job and I really dig how they are hinting at Leia's Force sensitivity. I have a feeling Reva has the Force Choke of Death in her future.

And I take it Jason Isaacs will be playing the Grand Inquisitor when v2.0 steps out of the the cloning chamber

 

[Saul]

This was really underwhelming. Everything felt off from the casting to effects. It felt like generic star wars TV show rather than movie quality Star Wars TV that we've come to know. Lots of time spent with people walking around then running around. All Skywalker kids must be annoying at a young age. The show feels small. I guess covid impacted it and they couldn't do location work.

 

[marillion]

I loved it. Some of first episode was a bit off, pace-wise, but overall, this is a great start.

I do find it surprising that he didn't know about Darth Vader though.. Or is it that he just didn't know Vader was Anakin?

 

[Campe]

I enjoyed the first two episodes quite a bit.

I liked young Leia and think she does a good job of showing the foundation of Carrie’s Leia with a whole lot of Padme’s attitude. I liked the drudgery of the first episode, the idea that Obi-Wan just is living a provincial life (sorry, Beauty and the Beast). Kumail Nanjiani was great but I’m actually surprised that Reva kept his character alive.

I was confused about two points: the first being the Inquisitor’s death, of course him being a recurring villain in Rebels. (And no, I won’t forget about Rebels. That show is awesome.) I’m wondering if his line from his final appearance in that series about there being some fates worse than death. I’m wondering if he keeps being brought back to life.

The second is the idea that Reva knows that Anakin is Vader. Maybe this is just my own understanding of the events, but if she would know, would others? And therefore the only people who don’t know are Luke and Leia? That seems… strange. Might open a big can of worms. We’ll see how it plays out.