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Obama as ''THE JOKER'' Controversy!!

I don't see what the problem is, or how this is in any way racism. Artists have been creating political satire and caricatures for as long as the office of President has even been around. As has been brought up, this would have never caused such an uproar if it were Bush or McCain depicted.

How it is racist is beyond me. How does depicting him as The Joker have anything to do with the fact that he's black? Why is any slight against a black person automatically seen as a racist action by the perpetrator?

I'm getting pretty goddamn tired of the race card being pulled in this country.

I don't see the racism either, but I guess de-facto calling Obama a sociopathic, maniacal mass murderer bent on destroying the country is pretty much as deranged and offensive as you can get without being racist or pulling out the Godwin. ;)
 
I don't see the racism either, but I guess de-facto calling Obama a sociopathic, maniacal mass murderer bent on destroying the country is pretty much as deranged and offensive as you can get without being racist or pulling out the Godwin. ;)

Oh, that's the idea :lol: I was so fixated on trying to figure out what the hell is socialist about the Joker or anything he does that the whole murderous maniac thing passed me by. Possibly because it's an insanely ridiculous association to make.
 
It should also be noted that going the opposite direction and freaking out about "OMG, the race card is being pulled again!" when it's one fairly small-time guy from the LA Urban Policy Roundtable I've seen quoted on the issue so far (and he didn't even mention racism in this article - though he has in others) is just as ridiculous as people being offended by this picture.

If you're so concerned about racial issues, how about taking a look at what Rush said up-thread there about Obama being out to fool white people. That's the kind of shit the paranoid fringe latches on to.
 
Free speech is controversial now? I didn't really see anyone raising much of a stink about any of the stuff people did with Dubya's picture...

Exactly.

I may not like it, but the person or persons who made this poster have every right in the world to do it and nothing should stop them from doing it.
 
Who said they didn't have a right to say it or make the poster? They said it was offensive and racist and dangerous, which, last time I checked, was also allowed under the First Amendment, even if it's being more than a bit melodramatic.

It's not even violating someone's First Amendment rights if another person says the poster should be banned, unless someone actively stepped in and infringed on their right to free speech. People seem to get confused and think that criticism of criticism is somehow infringing on someone's rights.
 
Who said they didn't have a right to say it or make the poster? They said it was offensive and racist and dangerous, which, last time I checked, was also allowed under the First Amendment, even if it's being more than a bit melodramatic.

It's not even violating someone's First Amendment rights if another person says the poster should be banned, unless some level of government stepped in and infringed on their right to free speech. People seem to get confused and think that criticism of criticism is somehow infringing on someone's rights.

The melodramatic comments from them have a ... "tone" to them that suggests they feel the person who did it shouldn't have done it/shouldn't be able to do it. "This goes beyond satire," being a key quote in the article through which I got that tone. That this is an article is another.

Someone posted anti-Obama posters. Non-story. People have been posting anti-current president propaganda since Washington.
 
It should also be noted that going the opposite direction and freaking out about "OMG, the race card is being pulled again!" when it's one fairly small-time guy from the LA Urban Policy Roundtable I've seen quoted on the issue so far (and he didn't even mention racism in this article - though he has in others) is just as ridiculous as people being offended by this picture.

It's a nice little diversion isn't it. Half the people in this thread are now talking about the poster maker being oppressed somehow instead of how utterly halfwitted the notion behind it is.
 
The melodramatic comments from them have a ... "tone" to them that suggests they feel the person who did it shouldn't have done it/shouldn't be able to do it. "This goes beyond satire," being a key quote in the article through which I got that tone. That this is an article is another.

Having a "tone" doesn't violate anyone's rights. If this one individual outright called for the posters to be banned it still doesn't violate anyone's rights, until someone in a position of power actually took action to prevent this person from being able to make his poorly formed political commentary. But I already said that.

It's a nice little diversion isn't it. Half the people in this thread are now talking about the poster maker being oppressed somehow instead of how utterly halfwitted the notion behind it is.

Indeed. It's also amusing how offended they are about pulling the race card whilst pulling it themselves to trot out the poor oppressed white people living under a double-standard meme.
 
It's far from racist or in poor taste. It's barely even generic political satire, since neither Obama nor the Joker have anything to do with Socialism. The only thing offensive about it is the bad makeup. :rommie:


I agree. It's pretty ridiculous. So I used it to make a threadbomb that makes slightly more sense.

Obama-Joker.jpg
 
thousands of people have been given a Joker type make over, either in real life or more likely on the web, why is it such a big fuss now its Obama?
 
I think because there's obviously some intended political message here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. The caption can't be relevant, the Joker wasn't a socialist.
 
If someone who apparently has no understanding of socialism, yet still has an irrational fear of it, wants to make a nonsensical poster as a political attack then they should be free to do so. I am also free to feel smugly superior to that person. :)
 
I think because there's obviously some intended political message here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. The caption can't be relevant, the Joker wasn't a socialist.

Maybe they meant Nicholson's Joker and just got mixed up. He seemed in favor of the redistribution of wealth when he was giving out his Joker Brand products to the people of Gotham free of charge and when he was tossing money off the parade float before that evil billionaire capitalist Bruce Wayne showed up in his fancy private jet and started shooting up the place.
 
Stupid? Yes.
Lame? Yes.
Childish? Yes
Protected? Yes
Are people thinking this is funny and clever while they bitched about similar childish insults thrown at Bush hypocrites? Yes.

Racist? No.
 
Geez. They have to make it invisible to all but special sunglasses for this to work properly.
 
I think because there's obviously some intended political message here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. The caption can't be relevant, the Joker wasn't a socialist.

Maybe they meant Nicholson's Joker and just got mixed up. He seemed in favor of the redistribution of wealth when he was giving out his Joker Brand products to the people of Gotham free of charge and when he was tossing money off the parade float before that evil billionaire capitalist Bruce Wayne showed up in his fancy private jet and started shooting up the place.

I think they're just equating Obama to being the Joker....with not necessarilty the Jokers attributes but what the very name implies.

Of course I haven't really read the article or the thread...so I could be wrong. LOL
 
OK, the poster of Obama may or maynot be in poor taste, what I'm not happy about is someone saying that the poster should be banned for putting it up. Sure, they have every right to protest that the poster should be banned, but all that is really doing is trying to suppress someone else's free speech. I think that is where the problem really lies, trying to outlaw someone's opinion because it is not liked.
 
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