NX-01 Deck Plans, Version 2.0

[AstroSmurf]

^ Hmmmm. I don't think it is. The structural rings are thicker and look to be a smaller than the corridor struts. If I was to wager a guess it appears they used the Jefferies tube set (from "Vanishing Point"), pulled the walls and pipes out, put the grated floor and the round struts on three foot platform then added new outer walls and the overhead plasma conduits. The entire set looks to be about 12 feet tall and about 14 or fifteen feet wide, which is about 25% bigger than it should be for the space.

 

[Irishman]

^ Hmmmm. I don't think it is. The structural rings are thicker and look to be a smaller than the corridor struts. If I was to wager a guess it appears they used the Jefferies tube set (from "Vanishing Point"), pulled the walls and pipes out, put the grated floor and the round struts on three foot platform then added new outer walls and the overhead plasma conduits. The entire set looks to be about 12 feet tall and about 14 or fifteen feet wide, which is about 25% bigger than it should be for the space.

Then maybe they SHOULD'VE used the corridor set.

but looking at screencaps from TrekCore from "Vanishing Point", the Jefferies Tubes I see there are half-or 3/4 height, and barely allow Hoshi to stand kind of upright (even without the pipes).

 

[AstroSmurf]

Look at the bottom of the circular braces. They have been extended down. The lighted grating is now flush with the floor and they have chopped off the bottom of the inner support so that it is flush with the part that angles down rather than sweeps inward. With all of those changes and removing the pipes, they gained almost a foot and a half worth of height. Like I said, I may be wrong but I would bet money on it.

 

[Irishman]

I just don't know if they designed it to be that modular. If not, they sure chopped it to hell. Either way, I like the concept. The part I didn't like was that the only danger facing the crew when the warp reactor was initialized and power fed to the nacelles was heat.

C'mon, let's give someone radiation poisoning!

And with that said, I wonder why the selfsame catwalk afforded them no protection from the anomalies in the expanse. Different "stuff" causing that, I guess.

 

[timelord1010]

This is very beautiful work. A little more detail and somebody might try to build it for real.

 

[Timo]

...On that ages-old galley vs. mess hall issue, I think the main objection to the separation of the two facilities is that the dishes will have to travel along/across a stretch of extremely busy "regular" corridor - the one used by the clientele!

But does that corridor have to be there? In the above deck plan snippet showing the mess hall and the galley, we see a radial corridor going between lifepod groups, with a parallel narrow space also going through that gap. Does all that have to be there? Couldn't the galley extend into that gap, entirely replacing the radial corridor?

I mean, the corridor set outside the mess hall isn't part of the mess hall set, right? The relative positionings of the mess hall doors and the outside corridors are for us to choose. And even if we need that radial corridor, we could appropriate the parallel narrow space for our food trolleys, seeing that (in the above layout at least) the circumferential corridor between the narrow space and the rim rooms is actually blocked from our view by a pressure door, and thus might not actually exist.

If the ship only has a single mess hall for the crew of eighty (and possibly for a larger crew, in the unlikely situation that Archer actually would for once manage to leave port with all the regularly scheduled gear and personnel aboard), I think this all-important facility would warrant more than a little logistical asymmetry to the ship's interior layout...

Oh, and almost forgot - ecstatically good work!

Timo Saloniemi

 

[AJBryant]

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I don't get the gazelle joke...

 

[B.J.]

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I don't get the gazelle joke...

Shockwave, Part II
Look under the "memorable quotes" section. And then wish you hadn't.

 

[AJBryant]

I believe the facepalm meme would be apt.


Thanks.

 

[AstroSmurf]

Hello kids. For the last two years I have resided in Nashville, Tennessee and at the beginning of May we were hit with an epic rain storm. Everything around me was either damaged, destroyed or swept away in the deluge. In less than three days time we received 16 inches of rain. Rivers were 60 feet above their banks. Homes were washed away. Roads were closed. Businesses were flooded. More than 80% of the county was without power. It is one thing to hear about something like this. It is another to actually experience it first hand.

As for my own condition in the storm, the apartment I lived in was at the top of a hill so I didn’t have to worry about flooding but I was without power for a week. When the power did finally come back on, I found that several appliances and equipment had been fried when the local sub station blew. This included the microwave, wireless network box and the cable modem so I was forced to go without microwave popcorn and internet. Once they cleared the roads, I tried to get online at the local library but found it had been closed due to flooding. My laptop died last summer so I had nothing to take to my local book store. I didn’t think that Barnes & Noble would appreciate my coming in and setting up an entire desktop on one of their tables. Needless to say I was stuck.

Since the flood I accelerated my plans for moving out of Tennessee. What was supposed to happen at the beginning of the fall I ended up doing last week. But despite all of the rain, wind, power outages, fried equipment, packing and unpacking, I have kept working. The plans are basically finished. I have a few things left to do before I close the book on them. I have five prop schematics that I want to do and the Cutaway still needs to be completed. However, I won’t be using the posts as the “big reveal” for the decks like before. As of this afternoon, I have uploaded an improved version of the website that includes the new revised and revamped plans and schematics. I am still making changes and updates to the site so you might find things half finished for a little while so please be patient. (And if anyone notices a mistake or broken link, please let me know!)

I will be back very very soon with something on F Deck. Oh and feed back on the new plans, detail plans and schematics would be great too. Hopefully everyone will enjoy them as much as they did the previous versions.

 

[pookha]

good to see you back online.
sorry that you are leaving tennessee.

 

[AstroSmurf]

^I liked Nashville but it was getting harder and harder to find work. If it wasn't for needing all that pesky money for food and shelter I would have stayed.

...On that ages-old galley vs. mess hall issue, I think the main objection to the separation of the two facilities is that the dishes will have to travel along/across a stretch of extremely busy "regular" corridor - the one used by the clientele!

But does that corridor have to be there? In the above deck plan snippet showing the mess hall and the galley, we see a radial corridor going between lifepod groups, with a parallel narrow space also going through that gap. Does all that have to be there? Couldn't the galley extend into that gap, entirely replacing the radial corridor?

I mean, the corridor set outside the mess hall isn't part of the mess hall set, right? The relative positionings of the mess hall doors and the outside corridors are for us to choose. And even if we need that radial corridor, we could appropriate the parallel narrow space for our food trolleys, seeing that (in the above layout at least) the circumferential corridor between the narrow space and the rim rooms is actually blocked from our view by a pressure door, and thus might not actually exist.

If the ship only has a single mess hall for the crew of eighty (and possibly for a larger crew, in the unlikely situation that Archer actually would for once manage to leave port with all the regularly scheduled gear and personnel aboard), I think this all-important facility would warrant more than a little logistical asymmetry to the ship's interior layout...

Oh, and almost forgot - ecstatically good work!

Timo Saloniemi

When I decided to move the lifeboats I created a problem that I have never really figured out how to entirely solve. The Mess Hall and Galley should be right next to each. But since I can't loose any lifeboats or move the RCS thruster or move the mess hall, I did the best I could.

 

[AstroSmurf]

Here is F Deck.

As you can see we have some areas for the MACOs to play. We also have antimatter containment, the brig, launch bay observation deck, and the nifty armories. I also included an access hatch for loading fresh torpedoes in the forward section of the deck. It was something that was in the previous plans but was hard to see. Basically the torpedoes are loaded in from the front and then shunted to the storage rack through a transfer aisle located in the half deck above F Deck. The torpedo is then loaded into the rack from the top. From there the spatial torpedoes have to be hand loaded into the magazine and then onto armory launch platform. The photonic torpedoes have been designed to be more automated for a quicker response time. They are carried to the Armory from the storage bay through a transfer aisle located beneath the storage bay and armory floors. When the photonic torpedo rack in the armory needs to be replenished, fresh torpedoes are brought down through the storage bay floor to the transfer aisle, moved forward and up into the armory through a hatch in the floor just under the Amory storage rack. The rack then lifts them into place, ready for the next target.

Let me know what you think.

 

[Irishman]

It looks promising, but a side view of the outermost compartments that show what you're doing with the portholes there would help us understand.

Could you help?

 

[B.J.]

Looks great! Are you going to do the half-decks as well? (Or have you already and I just missed it? ) I'm sure you've probably explained it before, but why is the outer aft edge trimmed in like that? And what's that hatch-looking thing in that same area?

As for the portholes, it makes sense to me. They're just on a wall that's angled steeply outward.

 

[Irishman]

I didn't want to assume.

 

[TowerPower]

Hello kids. For the last two years I have resided in Nashville, Tennessee and at the beginning of May we were hit with an epic rain storm. Everything around me was either damaged, destroyed or swept away in the deluge. In less than three days time we received 16 inches of rain. Rivers were 60 feet above their banks. Homes were washed away. Roads were closed. Businesses were flooded. More than 80% of the county was without power. It is one thing to hear about something like this. It is another to actually experience it first hand.

As for my own condition in the storm, the apartment I lived in was at the top of a hill so I didn’t have to worry about flooding but I was without power for a week. When the power did finally come back on, I found that several appliances and equipment had been fried when the local sub station blew. This included the microwave, wireless network box and the cable modem so I was forced to go without microwave popcorn and internet. Once they cleared the roads, I tried to get online at the local library but found it had been closed due to flooding. My laptop died last summer so I had nothing to take to my local book store. I didn’t think that Barnes & Noble would appreciate my coming in and setting up an entire desktop on one of their tables. Needless to say I was stuck.

Since the flood I accelerated my plans for moving out of Tennessee. What was supposed to happen at the beginning of the fall I ended up doing last week. But despite all of the rain, wind, power outages, fried equipment, packing and unpacking, I have kept working. The plans are basically finished. I have a few things left to do before I close the book on them. I have five prop schematics that I want to do and the Cutaway still needs to be completed. However, I won’t be using the posts as the “big reveal” for the decks like before. As of this afternoon, I have uploaded an improved version of the website that includes the new revised and revamped plans and schematics. I am still making changes and updates to the site so you might find things half finished for a little while so please be patient. (And if anyone notices a mistake or broken link, please let me know!)

I will be back very very soon with something on F Deck. Oh and feed back on the new plans, detail plans and schematics would be great too. Hopefully everyone will enjoy them as much as they did the previous versions.

As a resident of eastern TN, I know from friends the devastation that the floods caused. Thanks for posting that personal information. I think we need to sometimes remember that we need to communicate on a level other than Star Trek.

By the way, the work looks great.

 

[AstroSmurf]

^ I know several people who are homeless right now. I also have friends who had massive property damage and some who have lost their jobs because of it. Of course the news media was busy reporting on other things that were more ratings worthy so most of the country has no idea the level of need in Central Tennessee at the moment. Even with my being in another state now, I wish I could do more to help despite my own losses. Here I am a month later and I feel as helpless now as I did when it happened.


And to answer your questions:

That outer wall is very steeply angled. The one for G Deck is even more so. But the Side Cutaway will visually explain the portholes and the outer edge of the deck better. It is just not finished yet. Oh and the outer edge of the deck has an access tube running around it. The outer wall is split into two sections. The lower section (the part with the portholes) is open to the outer rooms. The upper section is closed off for the access tube. (The access tube is only about three feet tall and the top of it is flush with the ceiling of F Deck.)

The trimmed in section is where the ventral sections of the warp farrings meet the hull. I am not sure what you are asking about the hatch. Are you talking about the hatch coming out of the outer launch bay door structure or the one leading up from the deck itself?

I have no plans to do layouts for the half decks. Again, once you see the new Side Cutaway, you will understand why. When I ramped up the resolution I realized very quickly that the space between A and B decks needed to be expanded so I would be able to use the space under the forward dorsal cowling to full advantage. The half deck between D and E is now less than a meter tall. The half deck between E and F is still the same though and is mostly equipment for the Armory. (To be honest, I had a very hard time coming up with generic equipment to fill the mechanical areas that I did show on the full decks. The last thing I wanted to do is try and do that with a half deck of nothing but. My head would have exploded. Besides, when representing a machine that is filled with technology that hasn't been invented, you have to be vague so you don't end up dating the work in ten years.)

And thanks!

 

[B.J.]

Thanks for the explanations!

I am not sure what you are asking about the hatch. Are you talking about the hatch coming out of the outer launch bay door structure or the one leading up from the deck itself?

This thing:

 

[AstroSmurf]

^ That is an access ladder. The crew can use that to get into the crawl spaces in the bottom of the warp farrings. The aft ventral phase cannons are in there. They also store subspace amplifiers in there too.