I was wondering, seeing as it looks as though warp drive MIGHT be a lot faster in the new timeline (judging from the abnormally fast trip to Vulcan in the film), Starfleet will be able to journey to distant locations that, in the original timeline, wouldn't have been reached for at least another hundred years or so. What are the chances of Starfleet encountering the Borg, or the Dominion? What would happen? Just a thought.
NuFederation vs. Borg/Dominion?
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what do you mean with "abnormally fast trip to Vulcan"?
He means compared to he trip from Earth to Rigel and then Kronos in hours in "Broken Bow", Earth to the centre of the galaxy in STV and TAS... oh wait.
Seriously, he means compared to Voyager's ultra-slow warp speeds, which is unique to that show and non-canon technical manuals and charts. Even DS9, while stating that the Gamma Quadrant was 70 years away, had Earth, Kronos, Romulus, Risa and any other alpha quadrant world only a short runabout ride away. Speed of plot!
I seriously doubt we'll see the Dominon in nuTrek. Maybe the Borg, because they're so well known. In fact, Cadets Kirk and McCoy already took on a single Borg scout in "The Delta Anomaly" novel.
These things will probably be reserved for future comics and highly unlikely they will ever be in future films
I don't know about that. The Narada was constructed with Borg technology. Whose to say.....
In the comics.
No Next Gen garbage in NuTrek. Borg were cool at the cusp of our fasination with the 90's techboom, not so much anymore as technology is as pedestrian as kleenex.
No Borg, no humanoid alien of the week wearing drab grey or tan linen robes
Dominion were terrific as was everything DS9 but I don't want them tainted
No Borg, no humanoid alien of the week wearing drab grey or tan linen robes
Dominion were terrific as was everything DS9 but I don't want them tainted
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Maybe the Borg would be fastened up like the zombies in Dawn of The Dead.
Since the Narada hardly looked like the civilian mining vessel it is supposed to be (to say nothing about having absurdly powerful weapons that no mining ship would ever have), that's an explanation I can live with.
Now this is what a mining ship would - should - look like.
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Since we've never seen a civilian mining ship before ST09 they can only look like what we see in the movies.
Sorry, but that ship looks like a run of the mill "Star Trek" ship. Nothing about it says "mining ship" or even "Romulan".
TNG can't have ruined something they introduced. VOY ruined the Borg as an enemy.
I think JJ is going to keep TNG-era villains out of his franchise. A Borg incursion or preemptive contact with the Founders and Jem' Hadar would be to much of a stretch to fit in and explain in the reboot universe.
You are so right. The Narada is confirmed to have transwarp drive in the "Starships" menu on the 09 movies special features. Yet the Enterprise was able to catch up to it at warp 4 before the attack of Earth. Also the Abrams Enterprise max speed is warp 8, on the same scale as the TOS Ent.
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Nothing in Voyager (or Enterprise) was as damaging to the Borg's aura as the episode "Descent", where Acting Captain Beverlump and a pair of hapless academy graduates destroyed a Borg ship.AllStarEntprise said:
I think it'd be pretty cool to see Kirk take on a Borg cube.
Doesn't it kind of explain itself? "Because of the changes in the timeline, these groups are encountered earlier." In the Borg's case, it could even be argued that the supposed Borg technology in the Narada somehow attracted their notice.
Not Really. The Borg didn't show interest in earth until they encountered the Ent-D and absorbed the knowledge from it's computers. If you acknowledge the altered timeline effects of FC and the ENT episode Regeneration (which is still the canon of the abrams universe) the Borg still wouldn't have received the transmission from the drones. Also there is the great distance to travel from the Delta to the Alpha Quadrant.
Also the Dominion was planning on invading the Alpha and Beta quadrants, but the Gamma quadrant is so far away from both, and it would take time to gather up information and build armies. The Bajoran wormhole accelerated the Dominions plans and was a convenient shortcut to traverse the distance.
Without spoiling the Bajoran wormhole plot 100 years premature or the first contact with the Borg. There can't be a righteous representation of either villains. Besides I'd prefer the TNG and DS9 keep their villains and let Abrams use old or create new ones for his movies.
I doubt the Dominion will appear in these movies but only because I don't see it happening not necessarily because they aren't familiar to mainstream audiences. Ra's Al Ghul wasn't familiar to mainstream audiences and yet he was made the main villain of Batman Begins. Then there's Bane in The Dark Knight Rises and don't tell me people remember his bit role as Poison Ivy's lackey from Batman & Robin when people want to forget that entire movie in general.
The way I look at it: if mainstream audiences aren't familiar, then it'll be new to them. Anything introduced to them for the first time is new anyway.
The way I look at it: if mainstream audiences aren't familiar, then it'll be new to them. Anything introduced to them for the first time is new anyway.
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