NuEnterprise Speed,and other things I've noticed...

[Silversmok3]

On IMAX,movie trip #5 ,I picked up some extra little tidbits.

The Enterprise,at least on acceleration,is capable of Warp 7 at least judging by the speedo at the top of the windshield/screen.

Another reference of the window speedo shows crusing speed of warp 4.5 during the Checkov/age scene.


Nurse Chapel is assigned to the Enterprise.

And the new ship has 5 warp cores,only three are shown ejecting but 5 are seen going toward the black hole from several angles.

You also see the Enterprise in orbit fly above Spocks head right after he beams down to Vulcan for the last time.

And Countdown (the comic)messed up big time...it says the Romulan facial markings/tatoos are a Romulan custom for 'mourning',but Neros wife has them in the hologram cutscene with Pike,smiling in the recording...obviously she's not mourning her own death.

Yeesh,its crazy how I'm seeing new things...and its the 5th TIME watching it,and my second in IMAX.You guys find any other juicy tidbits?

 

[Peter the Younger]

And Countdown (the comic)messed up big time...it says the Romulan facial markings/tatoos are a Romulan custom for 'mourning',but Neros wife has them in the hologram cutscene with Pike,smiling in the recording...obviously she's not mourning her own death.

Maybe she's a Romulan Goth, and is just really into death imagery.

 

[Silversmok3]

And Countdown (the comic)messed up big time...it says the Romulan facial markings/tatoos are a Romulan custom for 'mourning',but Neros wife has them in the hologram cutscene with Pike,smiling in the recording...obviously she's not mourning her own death.

Maybe she's a Romulan Goth, and is just really into death imagery.

It would explain why she's wearing black.

Anyways,just some things I thought I'd share.

 

[Kpnuts]

The Enterprise,at least on acceleration,is capable of Warp 7 at least judging by the speedo at the top of the windshield/screen.

When was this?

Another reference of the window speedo shows crusing speed of warp 4.5 during the Checkov/age scene.

A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

You also see the Enterprise in orbit fly above Spocks head right after he beams down to Vulcan for the last time.

That's not the Enterprise, it's a random Vulcan ship evacuating the planet.

 

[Silversmok3]

The Enterprise,at least on acceleration,is capable of Warp 7 at least judging by the speedo at the top of the windshield/screen.

When was this?

Another reference of the window speedo shows crusing speed of warp 4.5 during the Checkov/age scene.

A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

You also see the Enterprise in orbit fly above Spocks head right after he beams down to Vulcan for the last time.

That's not the Enterprise, it's a random Vulcan ship evacuating the planet.

After Sulu 'punches it' outta spacedock,you see at the top of the Enterprise's windshield the warp factor speed, which jumps in fast increments to warp 7. something before the shot cuts to the E bolting with spacedock in the background.

So,at least upon acceleration,its capable of warp 7.Looking at the 'speedo' again during the 'Oh he's 17' scene,the speed indicated is a constant warp 4.5 with the thousands column changing.

Its not too implausible to say the new ship is capable of warp 7,similar to how military aircraft have a 'rated' top speed versus the *maximum* speed the vehicle can do,with the understanding that *staying* at maximum speed for too long can break stuff ;thus it should only be done in a bone fide emergency.


I stand corrected regarding the Vulcan ship,I believed it was the Enterprise due to Nero having blown away any defense craft Vulcan had at that point.

 

[SalvorHardin]

The Enterprise,at least on acceleration,is capable of Warp 7 at least judging by the speedo at the top of the windshield/screen.

When was this?



A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

You also see the Enterprise in orbit fly above Spocks head right after he beams down to Vulcan for the last time.

That's not the Enterprise, it's a random Vulcan ship evacuating the planet.

After Sulu 'punches it' outta spacedock,you see at the top of the Enterprise's windshield the warp factor speed, which jumps in fast increments to warp 7. something before the shot cuts to the E bolting with spacedock in the background.

So,at least upon acceleration,its capable of warp 7.Looking at the 'speedo' again during the 'Oh he's 17' scene,the speed indicated is a constant warp 4.5 with the thousands column changing.

Its not too implausible to say the new ship is capable of warp 7,similar to how military aircraft have a 'rated' top speed versus the *maximum* speed the vehicle can do,with the understanding that *staying* at maximum speed for too long can break stuff ;thus it should only be done in a bone fide emergency.


I stand corrected regarding the Vulcan ship,I believed it was the Enterprise due to Nero having blown away any defense craft Vulcan had at that point.

As far as the official movie site is concerned the Enterprise's top speed is Warp 8 by the way

 

[Kpnuts]

After Sulu 'punches it' outta spacedock,you see at the top of the Enterprise's windshield the warp factor speed, which jumps in fast increments to warp 7. something before the shot cuts to the E bolting with spacedock in the background.

So,at least upon acceleration,its capable of warp 7.Looking at the 'speedo' again during the 'Oh he's 17' scene,the speed indicated is a constant warp 4.5 with the thousands column changing.

Its not too implausible to say the new ship is capable of warp 7,similar to how military aircraft have a 'rated' top speed versus the *maximum* speed the vehicle can do,with the understanding that *staying* at maximum speed for too long can break stuff ;thus it should only be done in a bone fide emergency.

I think you saw that wrong.

The speed-o-meter increases from Warp factor 0 to about 0.85... probably showing that warp speed starts at the speed of light, ie: warp 1. The shot cuts to the exterior space shot at warp 0.85 (or something like that).

How can the ship be at warp 7 when it's still hanging around space dock?

I stand corrected regarding the Vulcan ship,I believed it was the Enterprise due to Nero having blown away any defense craft Vulcan had at that point.

There was a planet-wide distress call, and Spock mentioned that 10,000 survived. The ship on screen was simply one of those ships that managed to escape the planet.

 

[M.Robison]

I have made the IMAX trip thrice now, I seem to have missed Nurse Chapel...where is she?

 

[Silversmok3]

I have made the IMAX trip thrice now, I seem to have missed Nurse Chapel...where is she?

You don't see Chapel,but you hear McCoy ask her for 20ccs of cortizone for Kirk just as Kirk bolts outta sickbay.


And I remember exactly what I saw,the warp factor definitely reached 7 decimal something before the shot cut.I remember because I never saw it in 4 previous showings.
It was right as the Enterprise 'stretched' toward space.

Pike did say maximum warp before Sulu flubbed the takeoff IIRC,so it makes sense that they'd accelerate to warp 8 if that's the state top speed.

 

[SalvorHardin]

I have made the IMAX trip thrice now, I seem to have missed Nurse Chapel...where is she?

You don't see Chapel,but you hear McCoy ask her for 20ccs of cortizone for Kirk just as Kirk bolts outta sickbay.

It's actually before he bolts out of sickbay.

It's right after they see his swollen hands and right before Kirk goes to the panel to re-play Chekov's speech

 

[flemm]

A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

On my third viewing last night, I think I heard him say warp 4 (as he is explaining his plan involving Saturn). Either way, it seems somewhat low. This feels like a mistake.

 

[SalvorHardin]

A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

On my third viewing last night, I think I heard him say warp 4 (as he is explaining his plan involving Saturn). Either way, it seems somewhat low. This feels like a mistake.

Chekov does indeed say warp 4, not 3

 

[Kpnuts]

And I remember exactly what I saw,the warp factor definitely reached 7 decimal something before the shot cut.I remember because I never saw it in 4 previous showings.
It was right as the Enterprise 'stretched' toward space.

The speed indicator shows what speed the ship is currently travelling. How could they be travelling at warp 7 before they make the jump, it makes no sense.

The indicator was increasing from warp 0 (standing still) towards warp 1. When it hits warp 1, they zoom off.

I remember because I never saw it in 4 previous showings.

Is that supposed to prove that you're right? Because you didn't see anything the first 4 times?

 

[flemm]

The indicator was increasing from warp 0 (standing still) towards warp 1. When it hits warp 1, they zoom off.

Ones do sometimes look like sevens. (Just sayin' )

 

[M.Robison]

I have made the IMAX trip thrice now, I seem to have missed Nurse Chapel...where is she?

You don't see Chapel,but you hear McCoy ask her for 20ccs of cortizone for Kirk just as Kirk bolts outta sickbay.

It's actually before he bolts out of sickbay.

It's right after they see his swollen hands and right before Kirk goes to the panel to re-play Chekov's speech

Ah that explains things...

 

[Kpnuts]

The indicator was increasing from warp 0 (standing still) towards warp 1. When it hits warp 1, they zoom off.

Ones do sometimes look like sevens. (Just sayin' )

Ok... but do zeros look like sevens?

 

[Silversmok3]

And I remember exactly what I saw,the warp factor definitely reached 7 decimal something before the shot cut.I remember because I never saw it in 4 previous showings.
It was right as the Enterprise 'stretched' toward space.

The speed indicator shows what speed the ship is currently travelling. How could they be travelling at warp 7 before they make the jump, it makes no sense.

The indicator was increasing from warp 0 (standing still) towards warp 1. When it hits warp 1, they zoom off.

I remember because I never saw it in 4 previous showings.

Is that supposed to prove that you're right? Because you didn't see anything the first 4 times?

Why would the ship take off at warp one?Pike ordered maximum warp,and as shown on screen the ship accelerated to that speed (warp 8),which it then left at. I saw it accelerate from warp 0.something to warp 7.something,then it cuts to the Enterprise departing.It makes sense in that .2 of a second time it got to warp 8 and took off.

Given that I sat smack in the middle of an IMAX theater with a 2 story tall screen,with the Enterprise viewscreen dead in front of me,I know what I saw,and it wasn't warp 1 point anything.

 

[Silanda]

The Enterprise,at least on acceleration,is capable of Warp 7 at least judging by the speedo at the top of the windshield/screen.

When was this?

Another reference of the window speedo shows crusing speed of warp 4.5 during the Checkov/age scene.

A goof, considering Chekov mentions he hopes Scotty can get the engines to warp 3.

By then the Enterprise was damaged including, if I'm not mistaken, a damaged nacelle after it scraped some debris.

 

[Kpnuts]

Silvermok3, you are wrong. And I never said it was warp 1 point something. I said it was warp ZERO point something.

It's a very simple concept. The ship accelerates from warp ZERO, ie. standing still, to warp 1. When it hits warp 1 (when the shot cuts to the exterior space shot) the ship zooms into warp. As it's travelling via warp, the speed increases bit by bit.

A couple of scenes later, Sulu says "Maximum warp sir"... in other words, the ship has accelerated to maximum warp in the intervening time. The speed indicator would therefore be saying 7, 8 or whatever. IE maximum warp.

They didn't reach warp 7 while still next to the space dock!!! How hard is it to understand.

I've seen it many times.

0.0 > 0.1 > 0.2 ............ 0.8 > WARP.

 

[Silversmok3]

Silvermok3, you are wrong. And I never said it was warp 1 point something. I said it was warp ZERO point something.

It's a very simple concept. The ship accelerates from warp ZERO, ie. standing still, to warp 1. When it hits warp 1 (when the shot cuts to the exterior space shot) the ship zooms into warp. As it's travelling via warp, the speed increases bit by bit.

A couple of scenes later, Sulu says "Maximum warp sir"... in other words, the ship has accelerated to maximum warp in the intervening time. The speed indicator would therefore be saying 7, 8 or whatever. IE maximum warp.

They didn't reach warp 7 while still next to the space dock!!! How hard is it to understand.

I've seen it many times.

0.0 > 0.1 > 0.2 ............ 0.8 > WARP.

You've seen a ship go FTL many times?

Well cool then,maybe you can explain how your eyes can divine the precise speed of an FTL ship looking outside in.On board the Enterprise,the vessel is accelerating from rest to warp 8, the requested speed.From the captains chair you can see space stretching,so we know the ship is moving faster than light.

We now cut to an outside view.The ship has already left,but our eyes don't know that yet..until a second later,when the ship booms outta orbit.An FTL ship doesn't accelerate at a speed that can be seen,one moment its there and boom...its history.You can't tell whether its leaving at warp one or warp 8,and you definitely can't use visual light as evidence that its not at lightspeed.

In a manner of speaking the E was gone before the scene cut to the outside view.