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I think if Klingons, Vulcans, Humans and who knows who else, all with vastly different physiologies can manage to breed perfectly healthy children then ensuring the blended offspring are fertile is a very simple matter. We're talking totally different organs and blood already overcome.

All of those hybrids appeared in the mid-to-late 24th century, though. Technology was more advanced. TOS didn't show many other hybrids. . .Spock was probably very difficult to conceive in the early-to-mid 23rd century.

Bry_Sinclair said:
Their population is a tiny percentage of what it used to be. In human-Vulcan offspring, the Vulcan genes always appear to be the most dominant, whilst strict discipline and control will keep those pesky emotions under control, whilst with each generation the human blood is diluted further and further.

We don't know that Vulcan genes are dominant. . .Spock had to be genetically engineered; he lived on Vulcan, it would be logical that the scientists making him made his Vulcan genes dominant.


Bry_Sinclair said:
In the early scripts of TVH Saavik was to be pregnant by Spock.

Not canon. Obviously, the writers and Nimoy nixed it quite early in the process.

Bry_Sinclair said:
Due to the importance of procreation in this situation and the set backs it can occur, it would make sense to adopt a process of in vitro fertilisation, so as to ensure conception.

I agree that in vitro technology will most likely become very important to the Vulcans, and I will go further in saying that the whole bonded for life thing may have to go by the wayside. Logically, to maximize their gene pool in the quickest time possible, every Vulcan's genes will be combined with the maximum amount of partners (maybe via artificial wombs and a creche-based society). Every child becomes everyone's responsibility.

Bry_Sinclair said:
Vulcan are surprisingly small-minded, considering IDIC. But whilst facing such dire circumstances, they'll have to get over themselves :vulcan:

As pointed out above, there are more logical ways of procreation that fulfill the need for maximum genetic combinations in a short amount of time than to force unwilling participants into a pair-bond for life with someone they can't stand and forcing the female to have litters of children like kittens.


Here's a real world example for you: Scientists did not breed gray wolves to dogs (huskies, malamutes, Samoyeds) and call the offspring wolves in order to get them off the endangered species list. What makes you think Vulcans are going to be willing to "pollute" their gene pool?

Also, logically, considering that the pure genetic expression of Spock's Vulcan genes is Sarek, and since Sarek is still alive, and can contribute that genetic material to New Vulcan, Spock's genes (with their human taint) are not necessary. And if they ARE necessary, Spock Prime has already said that he can be in 2 places at once.

~FS
 
Bry_Sinclair said:
Vulcan are surprisingly small-minded, considering IDIC. But whilst facing such dire circumstances, they'll have to get over themselves :vulcan:

As pointed out above, there are more logical ways of procreation that fulfill the need for maximum genetic combinations in a short amount of time than to force unwilling participants into a pair-bond for life with someone they can't stand and forcing the female to have litters of children like kittens.

Amen. ;)


Here's a real world example for you: Scientists did not breed gray wolves to dogs (huskies, malamutes, Samoyeds) and call the offspring wolves in order to get them off the endangered species list. What makes you think Vulcans are going to be willing to "pollute" their gene pool?

Also, logically, considering that the pure genetic expression of Spock's Vulcan genes is Sarek, and since Sarek is still alive, and can contribute that genetic material to New Vulcan, Spock's genes (with their human taint) are not necessary. And if they ARE necessary, Spock Prime has already said that he can be in 2 places at once.

~FS

Exactly, because had they done that, then they would have a new species or at least a new subgroup of an existing species, and they wouldn't be preserving the old one. Sarek and Spock Prime (if needed) will do just fine in aiding in the cause to rebuild Vulcan. They've lived their lives, and they can afford to be the compensation for letting new Spock live his freely.

Oh I didn't recognize Benedict, LOLOL

'cos you were busy eyeing Zach I know.

So was I. :) Nice pictures. Everyone looks nice at those events.
 
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Oh, lol. :) That's what I was going for, but I didn't want to make them look hideous. His pupils aren't right, and I was going to fix them until I realized that adds to the weirdness. I did a little bit more with Uhura (or Hoorah!). This is my version of zombie-chic. Just because you're undead doesn't mean you can't try to look "nice."
 
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