Northstar---Yay or Boo?

[MeanJoePhaser]

We are supposed to believe that the Xindi Council viewed humans a threat (based on the Sphere Builders' advice), and in the alternate future of Twilight were hunting down all humans to exterminate.

Yet, the Xindi never discovered these humans in the expanse? Really? Such a dangerous species and there's spme on a planet that are all but in your backyard (compared to the distance of Earth).

And of course, these humans never progressed beyond the Old West.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I suppose so. I'm just not seeing what else Cooper Smith could, or should, have done.

IIRC, at the end of the Civil War, there were those in Lincoln's Cabinet who were bent on revenge, and wanted to beat down the remains of the rebellion. But Lincoln was insistent that, despite the terrible losses, the South be forgiven and that the nation be reunited peacefully... "with malice toward none, and charity to all," as he said in his second Inaugural address.

So that's another way Cooper Smith could have gone: forgiveness, and a new beginning. But it would have taken extraordinary vision and grace.

The difference there is, Smith had personally been a slave (as had every other human in the colony). He knew firsthand what it was like. And what had to be done to prevent it ever happening again.

A more apt Civil War analogy might be a mass uprising of slaves who proceeded to kill their masters and occupy their homes. That may well have happened, if they'd had access to the kind of weapons that Smith's people did...

In any case, most humans don't have the kind of "vision and grace" that Lincoln did. Lincoln was a special case. You can't expect everyone to be as nice as he was. Especially when, as I said, Lincoln himself was never a slave...

 

[Luther Sloan]

I loved everything except the cowboy stuff.

 

[ALF]

It's fun. Better than Carpenter Street.

 

[caisson2delta]

It was a great episode and one of my favorites. I absolutely loved the old West feel of it. Great story in the traditional Star Trek manor and I also think it is one of Enterprise's better, stand alone episodes.

 

[Kai Winn]

sorry to differ, but it's a mess. the whole idea of lost in space human colonies / alien mass abductions for the purpose of slave labour, overthrowing the alien lords, destoying their technologies, and going on with the lifestyle of a certain subregion and subculture on earth for centuries is implausible. star trek did too many of those nonsense episodes, most recently voyager's 'the 37s'. their writers at least conceded that a society like this evolves. the only redeeming factor is that it's framed by two great episodes, and obviously intented to take a deep breath.

 

[ALF]

^^ Stephen Hawking seems to think that it's (alien mass abductions, enslavement of the human race, etc) perfectly plausible.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

I don't like it, I must say. Coming after such an amazing episode (Twilight) it felt like a major let-down. Moreover, it continued the unfortunate Season 3 trend of ending episodes with shoot-outs, which got old fast for me. I did like Archer landing the shuttle on Main Street though.

 

[buckeyenation]

Yay for me...I just liked it. It's heavy enough, but still lighter than the Xindi arc...sort of break from the grimness of the Earth-will-be destroyed story line of the third season.

 

[Cornholio]

this ep was ok. kinda reminded me of Firefly.

Could the writers have included something with the Xindi so stopping there would make sense?

while I'd umm, agree that this ep kinda like, interrupted the Xindi arc and stuff, it made sense to stop 'cause there were humans on the planet.

We are supposed to believe that the Xindi Council viewed humans a threat (based on the Sphere Builders' advice), and in the alternate future of Twilight were hunting down all humans to exterminate.

Yet, the Xindi never discovered these humans in the expanse? Really? Such a dangerous species and there's spme on a planet that are all but in your backyard (compared to the distance of Earth).

And of course, these humans never progressed beyond the Old West.

I s'pose it's possible that the umm, Xindi didn't view these humans as a threat since they didn't have the technology and stuff to leave that planet.

 

[Marth22]

Boo I don't like the Northstar at all But I'm still a few episodes behind maybe gets better.

 

[Shatnertage]

I didn't like it, but I can appreciate that the cast and crew had a good time making it. Kind of like "A Fistful of Datas," but that one's really grown on me. This one takes itself just a tad too seriously to be fun for me.