"No, wait. That can't happen."

[Santaman]

^^ Of course, I guess for me its more that its so lazy and cheap to destroy a ship that way, come on if you want to blow up a hero ship then at least come up with something better.
"Oh the warpcore is blowing up so lets crash the saucer!" just is a tad dissapointing, now if they would have for example crashed the BOP into it and then have a catastrophic Kboom.. would be a tad less meh..

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I don't find explosions and big noises all that interesting, so it's hard for me to rank them.

 

[David cgc]

Santaman said:
If you watch TWOK and then compare that with Generations then yes it is indeed poor writing.

That's the one where a room that wasn't filled with volatiles inexplicably explodes half-way through getting shot at, right? That's the good writing?

Come to think of it, why did the torpedo bay interior just blow up once the phaser beam reached the airlock? Did someone leave a canister of liquid oxygen right next to the door or something?

 

[Santaman]

^^ yes and the one where a ship was pretty severely damaged with the engineroom which is filled with all kinds of volatile stuff is fired upon without the ship blowing up which was the point I was trying to make.

Heck in WW-1&2 some ships had their powder rooms plugged and they didn't blow up either and the stuff in there is veeeery volatile.

As for the torpedo bay, who knows whats running behind those walls could have been a plasma conduit or someone farting in the airlock.

 

[Meredith]

Santaman said:
^^ yes and the one where a ship was pretty severely damaged with the engineroom which is filled with all kinds of volatile stuff is fired upon without the ship blowing up which was the point I was trying to make.

Heck in WW-1&2 some ships had their powder rooms plugged and they didn't blow up either and the stuff in there is veeeery volatile.

As for the torpedo bay, who knows whats running behind those walls could have been a plasma conduit or someone farting in the airlock.

Anti-Matter is the most volatile substance ever, you can't even hold it in your hand without it going BOOM!!!!

 

[USS KG5]

Santaman said:
Heck in WW-1&2 some ships had their powder rooms plugged and they didn't blow up either and the stuff in there is veeeery volatile.

Yes, and some (like HMS Hood) DID blow up.

So what you are saying is that there is no hard and fast rule, sometimes your engine room gets pasted and you blow up and sometimes it gets pasted and you don't?

Sounds like GEN and TWOK are consistent from that argument.

 

[Sec31Mike]

There are some misconceptions about antimatter reactions. We here on earth have never actually witnessed one, it is all theory.

One theory is that a particle of antimatter can only react with it's direct counterpart i.e. electron/positron proton/antiproton. Each fundamental particle is comprised of a unique combination of quarks. The reaction has to be precisely balanced in this respect.

It is never stated in Trek what particular particle is being injected into the warp core.

This does leave some possible technical problems with the warp core breach and loss of antimatter confinement field events.

So there is alot of room here for theory and only time will tell what reality is in agreement with.

 

[Timo]

There are some misconceptions about antimatter reactions. We here on earth have never actually witnessed one, it is all theory.

Huh? Antimatter annihilation reactions are daily routine in most large hospitals, where millions of tiny antimatter bombs go off inside the bodies of PET-scanned patients. There is nothing "theoretical" about it, except of course that the practice perfectly follows the established theory.

Creation and subsequent annihilation of antimatter is a routine process that holds no mysteries as such. Creation of actual entire atoms of antimatter, as opposed to mere elementary particles, is a somewhat more involved practical feat, but it has been achieved as well. Of course, most of the practical uses of antimatter would not call for anti-atoms, since elementary antiparticles (especially antiprotons and positrons) are so much more practical.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[ancient]

Not to mention all the antimatter particles created by high-speed particles hitting our upper atmosphere. They don't last very long though...because of annihilation.