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No real match for Enterprise refit/Ent-A in the TOS movies?

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They should have fought some kind of zombie ship that had been dead for four years and suddenly came back to life.

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JarodRussell said:
Star Wars and Return of the Jedi is WWII aerial combat. TWOK is 17th century naval warfare. Beyond that, I don't think there were any memorable space battles in scifi films at that time.


I think I remember the First Contact space battle being considered the next best thing after Return of the Jedi. Because there are so few.
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The FC battle was shite. Looked no better than an XBox 360 space game with a bunch of random ships lobbing special effects and CGI at a big cube.
 
Vger23 said:
The FC battle was shite. Looked no better than an XBox 360 space game with a bunch of random ships lobbing special effects and CGI at a big cube.
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I agree, the battle was really boring.
The battles in DS9 and B5 were way better
 
Kaelef said:
As a kid, I made the same list of battles in my mind, and always wished there'd been at least one instance where the Enterprise wasn't severely crippled in one way or another.

Note that in TMP, the Enterprise is newly-refitted and has some issues to work out (e.g. the "warp tunnel" problem). Not that it would have mattered against V'ger.

In TWOK, they had a brand-new, inexperienced crew.

Obviously, all of these issues suffered by our ship were written to add to the drama. It wouldn't have been very exciting if our heroes had stomped on the adversary.

Still, I would've loved some more interesting, engaging battles like those in TWOK, and have been disappointed that the scenes in the new reboot movies have been full of quick edits, twisting camera shots, and extreme close-ups that, IMHO, keep you from really appreciating the visual grandeur of the scenes.

And, yes, Trek is much less about space battles than other sci-fi, and the Federation's focus isn't on warfare, but it's undeniable those sorts of action scenes add a great deal to a movie experience. Especially when we *care* about the Enterprise as we would any other character. We want her to win! It hurts to see her get damaged!

Finally: the battle scenes in Star Wars are amazing, but very different in that they're all about battles between very large numbers of ships. Trek battles have almost always been 1-on-1 or another small number of ships, making it all much more personal.
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You realize you reanimated a 4 year dead thread. The moderators tend to frown on that. :)
 
Maurice said:
You realize you reanimated a 4 year dead thread. The moderators tend to frown on that. :)
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I honestly don't understand why that's considered bad practice compared to starting a new thread on the same topic. Why not maintain existing conversation history when all the commentary is relevant? At what point is a thread "dead", and why not automatically lock them at that point if it's really a problem?
 
Maurice said:
That too has been answered over and over and over. it's right there in the board rules, though (link). Also discussed at length here.(link).
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Thanks. I read the discussion, and it's clear that it's meant to address certain kinds of behavior (e.g. adding "me too" to dead discussion), not a hard and fast rule applicable across the board, which explains why threads aren't automatically locked. And now this thread is committing the additional sin of being completely off topic.
 
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