Took me about thirty seconds to realise you weren't suggesting Capaldi was going to be the next showrunner
I must be getting old...
Don't feel so bad. It took me over four hours to piece things together.
No full series in 2016?
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Don't feel so bad. It took me over four hours to piece things together.
Took me about thirty seconds to realise you weren't suggesting Capaldi was going to be the next showrunner
I must be getting old...
Don't feel so bad. It took me over four hours to piece things together.
The thing is it really does seem like a great idea when you think about it! He does have writing and production experience after all.
Yes and no; given the demands of a full-season BBC production, it can pretty easily exhaust the cast and crew. I believe producing a 13-episode season of Who requires something like nine months of filming due to union regulations about the length of the workday, and it's hard to fault people for saying, "Fuck it, I don't want to spend another three-fourths of the next year in fucking Cardiff."
The onsite crew is 700 people working like a well oiled machine.
Imagine trying to find a completely different 700 people to do those jobs every 9 months.
Sure there's turn over, but 700 new people on the same day, with no one from the day before to explain what the #### their job entails.
Imagine trying to find a completely different 700 people to do those jobs every 9 months.
Sure there's turn over, but 700 new people on the same day, with no one from the day before to explain what the #### their job entails.
I get what you mean. Its weird how differently shows are filmed in the UK compared to US.
It's not rocket science. The money to do it the way things are done in the US doesn't exist. As the Head of Drama at the BBC pointed out recently when asked why don't make something like 'Game Of Thrones'; if they did it would eat up most of their budget for the year.
That being said, a camera operator is still a camera operator, a PA is still a PA etc.. the job will be very similar from one production to another.
And as I said I suspect that many of the crew are proud to work on DW, which after all is one of the Beebs flagship shows.
One season of Game Of Thrones could take up five or more seasons of the money used to produce Doctor Who.
Wow. I would have guessed the reverse. I don't watch it but I assumed that GoT didn't cost very much per episode. I didn't figure that filming unlikable characters talking for 50 minutes an episode, with some nudity and random violence stuck in, was so expensive. After a brief google search it seems like its mostly costumes and location shooting that make it so expensive, which makes some sense at least.
Still, when I said the differences were weird, I knew about the money thing. I'm just saying that the US could probably produce the show a lot faster than 9 months for 13 episodes, and it probably wouldn't cost that much more. Its the extreme slowness of producing episodes in the UK I find weird, and it doesn't seem like a lower budget would necessarily make it take longer to produce episodes. I mean, obviously there is a reason that the UK TV show makers are glacially slow compared to the US, and that 's the weird thing for me.
About six million dollars per episode.
Don't forget props and FX. But, yeah, filming in Iceland, Northern Ireland, and Spain (and I think northern Africa) doesn't come cheap.
It would require probably a doubling of the per-episode budget (to cover the overtime) and a relocation of production out of Britain to, say, Canada or the Antipodes. But the BBC can't just throw money at Who (they have a fixed schedule of budgets that apply across the board based on channel and prestige), and relocation is unlikely.
Moving the show to Worldwide's purview would probably help with the budget, as Worldwide could plow the profits from the series directly into making the program. But I don't think we'd get more episodes per year if that happened.
But some shows in the UK go out several nights a week 52 weeks a year so can have over 200 episodes a year(i.e the Soaps), So not exactly glacially slow pace.
So why the difference sure the UK filming day might be a few hours shorter than say a US filming day. So sure the US might shoot 7 pages a day the Beeb might decide to shoot only 4 pages a day. This of course allows more times for more takes of a particular scene.
45-minute Doctor Who episodes typically film over ten to fourteen days, which means they get an average of three to five minutes' worth of the finished episode per day.
One page per minute is the standard. That's what made Moffat's leaked scripts last year so interesting; he's nowhere close to that. His scripts are very dense, about four pages to three minutes. (In other words, his scripts run about sixty pages for forty five minutes.)
That's what makes the Doctor Who schedule so grueling (which is why Tennant ultimately left, as I recall; he loved Moffat's idea for Season 5 but just didn't want to do another year) -- it's not the hours in the day, which again are pretty strictly regulated due to the unions, but the total time commitment. Star Trek: The Next Generation was able to shoot 20-some episodes over like six months in six or seven days because they worked the cast and crew for 12- to 15-hour days. Especially for people with families, the Doctor Who shoot taking eight or nine months out of the year can be pretty exhausting and I imagine the pay isn't exactly amazing. Even Capaldi has implied that he was surprised at just how much time he has to devote to the show.
Once you get to a certain age, there's a possibility that whatever you are currently doing, is the last thing you will be doing everand be that which you will always be remembered for.
Oliver Reed's ghost is still facepalming about Gladiator.
Oliver Reed's ghost is still facepalming about Gladiator.
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