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No full series in 2016?

Well they might not think starting on say the 29th August isn't a good idea, given that's the Summer Bank Holiday Weekend. So people might be doing something else that weekend. Start earlier and you run through the "warm" summer nights, and ratings can dip in the summer.

Except it was the Summer Bank Holiday that Deep Breath aired last year, and Let's Kill Hitler in 2011 for that matter.
 
If Moffat is too busy to handle both shows, he should step aside and left someone else take over for Who. He was always a better showrunner for Sherlock than he ever was for Who.
This makes no sense. Moffat works for BBC, they don't work for him. He can't possibly be the one making the decisions about what he's going to produce every year
 
If Moffat is too busy to handle both shows, he should step aside and left someone else take over for Who. He was always a better showrunner for Sherlock than he ever was for Who.
This makes no sense. Moffat works for BBC, they don't work for him. He can't possibly be the one making the decisions about what he's going to produce every year

At the moment it seems to be being dictated by Bilbo and Khan's availability.

And doing a rough calculation Doctor Strange doesn't start until November so if they really aren't going to start shooting S10 until Sherlock is done we could be looking at a 6 month delay.
 
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Is it possible Peter Capaldi might like a little break and doing something else before returning for a full run? A bit like how David Tennant did the four specials while doing Hamlet.
 
If Moffat is too busy to handle both shows, he should step aside and left someone else take over for Who. He was always a better showrunner for Sherlock than he ever was for Who.
This makes no sense. Moffat works for BBC, they don't work for him. He can't possibly be the one making the decisions about what he's going to produce every year

Well he could on the grounds that, whilst the BBC can make Doctor Who without him, Sherlock is his (and of course Gattis') show and whether any more gets made is entirely down to keeping the two creators happy. Considering it's one of the BBC's biggest hits (and sells very well abroad) I think they'd be willing to accommodate a fair few whims.

After all, Who is also still successful under his watch and the series has survived a gap year before. If part of the terms of making more Sherlock was him staying on Who with a reduced workload there, they probably wouldn't be completely averse to the idea if it got them more Freeman and Cumberbatch.
 
I love Sherlock, but if its effecting Doctor Who, i'd say Moffat should let something go. If he likes Who better, then lighten up on Sherlock (which is funny because they only put out a series every few years). But if he's more into Sherlock, then he should probably just move on from Doctor Who and let someone who can put their full energy into it take over.
 
Well they might not think starting on say the 29th August isn't a good idea, given that's the Summer Bank Holiday Weekend. So people might be doing something else that weekend. Start earlier and you run through the "warm" summer nights, and ratings can dip in the summer.

Except it was the Summer Bank Holiday that Deep Breath aired last year, and Let's Kill Hitler in 2011 for that matter.

True, and they got decent final ratings, but did those episodes have a higher propation of people who watched on catch-up or delayed viewing rather than who watched live? As DW can get a siginfigant bump from the overnight figures when the Day+7 viewers are factored in.
 
Is it possible Peter Capaldi might like a little break and doing something else before returning for a full run? A bit like how David Tennant did the four specials while doing Hamlet.

The 2009 gap year didn't happen because Tennant wanted to do Hamlet. Rather the reverse, Tennant did Hamlet in 2009 because he had a year off from Doctor Who. It was RTD who planned as early as 2006 to take 2009 off. Tennant was informed of these plans, and made arrangements accordingly to keep himself busy that year

Whatever other reason there is for not and DW or rather a reduced load in 2016, it won't be because of Capaldi's wishes to do something else.
 
If Moffat is too busy to handle both shows, he should step aside and left someone else take over for Who. He was always a better showrunner for Sherlock than he ever was for Who.
This makes no sense. Moffat works for BBC, they don't work for him. He can't possibly be the one making the decisions about what he's going to produce every year

Well he could on the grounds that, whilst the BBC can make Doctor Who without him, Sherlock is his (and of course Gattis') show and whether any more gets made is entirely down to keeping the two creators happy. Considering it's one of the BBC's biggest hits (and sells very well abroad) I think they'd be willing to accommodate a fair few whims.

After all, Who is also still successful under his watch and the series has survived a gap year before. If part of the terms of making more Sherlock was him staying on Who with a reduced workload there, they probably wouldn't be completely averse to the idea if it got them more Freeman and Cumberbatch.
Since Sherlock is only 3 Episodes a Series, I wouldn't think it would be worthwhile to cut more Programming than that from Doctor Who, in order to get more Sherlock, so, I can only see that if it's a small reduction in Doctor Who.
 
This makes no sense. Moffat works for BBC, they don't work for him. He can't possibly be the one making the decisions about what he's going to produce every year

Well he could on the grounds that, whilst the BBC can make Doctor Who without him, Sherlock is his (and of course Gattis') show and whether any more gets made is entirely down to keeping the two creators happy. Considering it's one of the BBC's biggest hits (and sells very well abroad) I think they'd be willing to accommodate a fair few whims.

After all, Who is also still successful under his watch and the series has survived a gap year before. If part of the terms of making more Sherlock was him staying on Who with a reduced workload there, they probably wouldn't be completely averse to the idea if it got them more Freeman and Cumberbatch.
Since Sherlock is only 3 Episodes a Series, I wouldn't think it would be worthwhile to cut more Programming than that from Doctor Who, in order to get more Sherlock, so, I can only see that if it's a small reduction in Doctor Who.

Sherlock is three 90 minute episodes, which is the equivalent of six Doctor Who episodes, or in other words, half a season.
 
I think the real problem will not so much be a few months delay in starting shooting Series 10 but the knock-on effect.

If they don't start until June 2016, they won't finish until the next February 2017 which means that even if they show half the series next year they won't be able to start the second half until March or April 2017. And unless they want to keep splitting it, Series 11 won't be until spring 2018 which leaves us, as with 2012/2013, with one series in two years. And all for three Sherlocks.

To be honest I'd rather they just did a few Specials in 2016 and then have that year's Xmas Special be the first episode of Series 10 with the rest starting in January.
 
I think the real problem will not so much be a few months delay in starting shooting Series 10 but the knock-on effect.

If they don't start until June 2016, they won't finish until the next February 2017 which means that even if they show half the series next year they won't be able to start the second half until March or April 2017. And unless they want to keep splitting it, Series 11 won't be until spring 2018 which leaves us, as with 2012/2013, with one series in two years. And all for three Sherlocks.

To be honest I'd rather they just did a few Specials in 2016 and then have that year's Xmas Special be the first episode of Series 10 with the rest starting in January.

I've been pondering this very thing. And I've had the dark thought that this may all be for naught; what if, for some reason, Cumberbatch and/or Freeman simply aren't available in the spring to film Sherlock? The BBC would be losing half a series of Doctor Who for, essentially, no reason whatsoever. And, in that instance, I suspect that BBC Worldwide would be screaming bloody murder.
 
*If* this is true, the BBC really needs to get its act together. The output has been inconsistent before but it appeared that they were finally getting it together. Hopefully these rumors are not true.

Mr Awe
 
I think the real problem will not so much be a few months delay in starting shooting Series 10 but the knock-on effect.

If they don't start until June 2016, they won't finish until the next February 2017 which means that even if they show half the series next year they won't be able to start the second half until March or April 2017. And unless they want to keep splitting it, Series 11 won't be until spring 2018 which leaves us, as with 2012/2013, with one series in two years. And all for three Sherlocks.

To be honest I'd rather they just did a few Specials in 2016 and then have that year's Xmas Special be the first episode of Series 10 with the rest starting in January.

Well, when you look at it that way, then the best option I can think of is to just write 2016 off as a specials year and then return in 2017 with a full season with the old Easter weekend premiere.

Hey, it worked for six consecutive seasons, seven if you count Planet of the Dead, plus the second half of season 7. Spring is where Doctor Who belongs, IMO.
 
IMO we seriously need to get back on track schedule wise like RTD's seasons and the first season for Smith

April to July for the full season

Christmas for the special

April to July for the full season


It seems out of sync now that we have to wait till September for a new season.
 
IMO we seriously need to get back on track schedule wise like RTD's seasons and the first season for Smith

April to July for the full season

Christmas for the special

April to July for the full season


It seems out of sync now that we have to wait till September for a new season.

Agreed in full. Hell, even though I prefer full seasons, I'd even be okay with the season split six weeks in the spring and six weeks in the fall like we had in 2011.

Those Easter premieres really were a great tradition. And yes, I am aware seasons 2 and 3 didn't actually premiere Easter weekend, but you know what I mean.
 
And yes, I am aware seasons 2 and 3 didn't actually premiere Easter weekend, but you know what I mean.



I think Saturday would count since it is the weekend


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Argh! Brain fart, meant to say seasons 3 and 4. Season 3 premiered March 31, 2007 (Easter was April 8) and season 4 premiered April 5, 2008 (Easter was March 23).
 
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