Stargate has made me deathly allergic to pine trees.
Sci fi = deserts. All the best planets are deserts. Tatooine, Arrakis, Vulcan.
Nimoy: Impossible for Trek to go back to TV
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Stargate has made me deathly allergic to pine trees.
Sci fi = deserts. All the best planets are deserts. Tatooine, Arrakis, Vulcan.
I'm sure TREK XI is looking amazing. But let's be honest TV has often shown the ability to step up to the plate production-wise. Who would have thought after Star Wars si-fi could go back to TV. But a year later there was BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. You can say whatever you want about the cheesy writing/characters...but the effects work in the initial TV movie was amazing. Many of the fighter scenes exceed SW by a large margin.
Who would have thought Trek could go back to TV after the amazing looking ST:TMP? But they wnet back a few years later. And back. And back.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure we'll see Trek on TV again.
Who would have thought Trek could go back to TV after the amazing looking ST:TMP? But they wnet back a few years later. And back. And back.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure we'll see Trek on TV again.
Nimoy's comment strikes me as more of a compliment by exaggeration than a quantitative analysis of what can or cannot appear on television. Keep in mind too that we are hearing this second hand - Nimoy may have said something on the order of "I'm not sure how they would be able to keep such quality on any future tv show"
and Orci being the beeming producer of the show heard it as "They'll never match your quality EVER!"
besides - how many times do people have to be proved wrong before they stop making statements of such finality. Wasn't it a trek effects guy who said they'd never use CGI spaceships in a trek show?
and Orci being the beeming producer of the show heard it as "They'll never match your quality EVER!"
besides - how many times do people have to be proved wrong before they stop making statements of such finality. Wasn't it a trek effects guy who said they'd never use CGI spaceships in a trek show?
Kegek Kringle said:
Ah, Fred Freiberger. Lost in Space, Star Trek, Space: 1999. His answer was always the same: Can we camp this up a little?
Now, I don't think Fred "camped up" Space:1999. In fact I don't think that would have been possible.
^^^
Really well posted, and I don't wanna condemn the guy. But when he came into Trek... well, the story is that he wanted a funky "Lost In Space". Which was more popular and more what "sci-Fi" was supposed to be back then, or something. Or so the talk around here goes, I reckon.
DS9Sega said:
Kegek Kringle said:
Ah, Fred Freiberger. Lost in Space, Star Trek, Space: 1999. His answer was always the same: Can we camp this up a little?
Except that — to my knowledge — Freiberger never worked on Lost in Space. Damn the man for what he did, if you will, but don't pillory him for things he had no involvement with.
He also wrote for a lot of shows that were fairly serious. he even wrote an episode All in the Family.
None of which is to say he was well suited to genre shows like Star Trek. But let's give blame and credit where it's due and deserved.
Fred Freiberger on IMDB
...and on Wikipedia
Really well posted, and I don't wanna condemn the guy. But when he came into Trek... well, the story is that he wanted a funky "Lost In Space". Which was more popular and more what "sci-Fi" was supposed to be back then, or something. Or so the talk around here goes, I reckon.
I hope he relished it as much as I.
Oh, it was. Space:1999 took itself fairly seriously in the first season, as weird and as rampantly ridiculous it could be at times.
It's the second season, though, where it went into camp at full-tilt. Also, the second season was the first and last with Freiberger as a producer. Coincidence? I think not!
And inspired by Lost in Space is probably worse than working on it, in retrospect. Robert Kinoshita worked on it!
It is the WORST star wars film ever. Phantom Menace is a better "film."
But, there is another way to look at it; a glorious B film epic. It reminds me of terrible films they would show on Saturday night and Friday nights back in the 1970s; or maybe Sunday afternoon. It has the worst dialogue combined with the most intriguing ideas and visuals and concepts from the whole saga.
It's like Phase IV meets Battle for the Planet of the Apes meets Return of the Son of the Wolfman meets Land of the Giants meets an Old Dick Tracy movie meets Buck Rogers mixed with a crapppy detective film crossed with a Bond Spin-off. It's pure 1930s, 40s and 50s pulp fantasy mixed with modern effects, 1970s drama and a big budget.
Then the fact that it was ridiculous and over-the-top in the first season was accidental?
"We're sitting on the biggest bomb in history!"
I imagine the original cast thought Star Trek would never return to television when Phase II became TMP.
It took seven years but it happened.
It took seven years but it happened.
That's because you're not accounting for inflation.
At the time that "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was released, it held the record as the most expensive film ever completed outside of the Soviet Union (and there was debate about even that, since the actual figures for the Russian version of "War And Peace" were in dispute).
At the time that "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was released, it held the record as the most expensive film ever completed outside of the Soviet Union (and there was debate about even that, since the actual figures for the Russian version of "War And Peace" were in dispute).
Exactly so. Again, at the time it represented the biggest expenditure on any film made in the West, ever.
Aside from which, boxofficemojo's budget number is about ten million dollars less than studio sources claimed in 1979 and other authorities have maintained since. For a number of years the film was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records.
