nice to see kids listening to classical music

[Cyke101]

Everyone reads books in the 24th century, that's nonsense to me. Ask your kids what a typewriter is, and you'll know what people will say about books in 250 years.

A book is a book, regardless of the form it takes. Books in the past were written on scrolls or papyrus or dried bark, but they were still known as books (or the equivalent in the appropriate language). The format of book that we tend to equate with the word "book" in the current era is technically called a codex.

My God, man!

He's right, though. We see the ever-studious Jake Sisko and Janeway reading books-by-PADD, but still refer to them as books nonetheless.

I love Doctor Who's Silence in the Library two-parter. They're in the quite-distant future and the Doctor points out that even though books have since evolved into downloads and programs and holograms and other forms, the actual form of the book never goes away. The smell, the feel, the pleasure of the paper texture keeps pulling people back. At that point in the human future, an entire planet is beautifully made into a classical library, not unlike the Library of Congress on a massive scale (complete with public transportation).

 

[Green Shirt]

Until XI, it looked like rock music had completely died out in the future. Maybe the Federation banned any aggressive music like Slayer or Anthrax or whatever, and made everyone listen to classical or jazz or whatnot (it sure looked that way).

Don't forget the little boy who listens to very dissonant rock music in an episode of TNG, prompting Picard to enter his quarters and yell, "WOULD YOU TURN OFF THAT NOISE?!?"

Roll over, Beethoven.

 

[Cyke101]

Until XI, it looked like rock music had completely died out in the future. Maybe the Federation banned any aggressive music like Slayer or Anthrax or whatever, and made everyone listen to classical or jazz or whatnot (it sure looked that way).

Don't forget the little boy who listens to very dissonant rock music in an episode of TNG, prompting Picard to enter his quarters and yell, "WOULD YOU TURN OFF THAT NOISE?!?"

Roll over, Beethoven.

Y'know, whenever Beverly yells at Wesley, Wesley angrily storms off to his room, locks the doors, and pumps out his speakers to the max on Mozart

 

[Iamnotspock]

A book is a book, regardless of the form it takes. Books in the past were written on scrolls or papyrus or dried bark, but they were still known as books (or the equivalent in the appropriate language). The format of book that we tend to equate with the word "book" in the current era is technically called a codex.

My God, man!

He's right, though. We see the ever-studious Jake Sisko and Janeway reading books-by-PADD, but still refer to them as books nonetheless.

I love Doctor Who's Silence in the Library two-parter. They're in the quite-distant future and the Doctor points out that even though books have since evolved into downloads and programs and holograms and other forms, the actual form of the book never goes away. The smell, the feel, the pleasure of the paper texture keeps pulling people back. At that point in the human future, an entire planet is beautifully made into a classical library, not unlike the Library of Congress on a massive scale (complete with public transportation).

I love that one too. It also makes me think of how Nicholas Meyer made a deliberate point of including books in his Trek movies.

"I can't imagine a world without books. I can imagine it without people... I can see where that's going, but as long as there are people, there will be books. I have to believe that." - Director's Commentary, The Wrath of Khan.

 

[Mirren Audax]

In "Star Trek", the adolescent James Kirk stole and ultimately wrecked that car all the while listening to "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys.

It'd be a little like me jacking a car while listening to The Marriage of Figaro.

If I was found to be in a similar situation, then I would be listening to Spitfire Prelude and Fugue by William Walton.

 

[Mirren Audax]

My God, man!

He's right, though. We see the ever-studious Jake Sisko and Janeway reading books-by-PADD, but still refer to them as books nonetheless.

I love Doctor Who's Silence in the Library two-parter. They're in the quite-distant future and the Doctor points out that even though books have since evolved into downloads and programs and holograms and other forms, the actual form of the book never goes away. The smell, the feel, the pleasure of the paper texture keeps pulling people back. At that point in the human future, an entire planet is beautifully made into a classical library, not unlike the Library of Congress on a massive scale (complete with public transportation).

I love that one too. It also makes me think of how Nicholas Meyer made a deliberate point of including books in his Trek movies.

"I can't imagine a world without books. I can imagine it without people... I can see where that's going, but as long as there are people, there will be books. I have to believe that." - Director's Commentary, The Wrath of Khan.

That was one of the subtlest and best allusions to original series, from 'Court Martial' - namely Sam Cogley's preference of books over data banks. It was great to see how Kirk had become such an overt bibliophile and that to me was one of the best things about the older JTK - even when I was a thirteen year-old when 'The Wrath of Khan' came out. Gary Mitchell had siad of Kirk either you 'think or sink' so I guess he was always a collector of books.

 

[Christopher]

^Mitchell even called Kirk "a stack of books with legs."

 

[I am not Spock]

Yeah, Kirk was portrayed as a collector of antiques in TWOK. The 80s Commodore, the flintlock pistols, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if he collected books, too. Mitchell probably read everything on PADD download and thought Kirk was an old-timer who preferred actual paper books.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I have to wonder how literal Gary was being. COuld he have been refering to Kirk depth of knowledge?

 

[SRFX]

I distinctly a recall a conversation Bashir has with either Garak or O'Brien in DS9 where is complaining that contemporary playwrights are more interested in producing human interpretations of 'classic' alien literature rather than drawing from Earth's own rich cultural background.

Maybe by the 23rd century, contemporary human culture has fallen by the wayside? Has ALIEN culture taken over?

WAS TERRA PRIME RIGHT?????


:P

 

[Christopher]

I have to wonder how literal Gary was being. COuld he have been refering to Kirk depth of knowledge?

Well, "a stack of books with legs" can't be taken too literally. But in context, Gary was referring to the fact that Kirk at the Academy was an extremely serious, studious person. The image suggests a student who's always carrying around a ton of schoolbooks everywhere he goes, so that from the front he looks like a stack of books with legs. Though of course that would be figurative, given that you should be able to fit the texts for an entire Academy curriculum on a single padd, or in TOS terms on a handful of data cartridges.