It's not lost. The UFP knows were it is. It doesn't seem to be in danger at the end of the episode either.
Nhan and the Seed Vault
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...Although being in a degree of danger might be part of the mission.
What is the rationale of putting the vault on a ship, rather than on a station? A ship with two perfectly fine warp nacelles might be required for dodging and hiding, at least in this post-apocalyptic galaxy. And the Tikhov was suspiciously close to a dangerous anomaly the size of an average pumpkin, thus clearly by design. Having the caretakers move the ship from place to place and sometimes hide her in the clouds or behind rocks might be essential; mere floating wouldn't cut it.
Timo Saloniemi
What is the rationale of putting the vault on a ship, rather than on a station? A ship with two perfectly fine warp nacelles might be required for dodging and hiding, at least in this post-apocalyptic galaxy. And the Tikhov was suspiciously close to a dangerous anomaly the size of an average pumpkin, thus clearly by design. Having the caretakers move the ship from place to place and sometimes hide her in the clouds or behind rocks might be essential; mere floating wouldn't cut it.
Timo Saloniemi
A station isn't mobile like the Seed Vault is. Imagine, for a moment, the Emerald Chain, Train or whatever those Green Meatbags call themselves, finding the Seed Vault as an immobile station. The Orion's would attack and most likely capture the station. Now you have the Orion's with the power to destroy or create every single planet in the Federation in the palm of their hand. Having the seeds of every single planet in the Federation would allow the Orion's to enslave every single race in the Federation by being able to re-create the Federation member's planet on dead worlds to enslave them on.
A war breaks out between the Rebels and Orion's, the Orion's simply threaten to destroy the seeds of the Rebel's home world or the Orion's would simply destroy the seeds, thus erasing the home world of the Rebels forever. Such power is even more great then than what Discovery is holding in her memory banks.
Keeping the seeds from enemy hands is certainly worth the effort of sailing around a bit. So the one remaining mystery here is, why did the Burn not destroy the seeds?
Did the Tikhov-M (or perhaps Tikhov-L) routinely shut down her warp core when not moving, unlike any other starship we ever hear of?
Timo Saloniemi
Did the Tikhov-M (or perhaps Tikhov-L) routinely shut down her warp core when not moving, unlike any other starship we ever hear of?
Timo Saloniemi
The big question surely is in a world with replicators why do you need a seed ship at all
Because you don't keep all of your eggs in one basket.
Backup... in case of a catastrophic disaster.
Though to be fair, why did SF need to send shield generators to protect a planet from solar flares and new replicators?
You'd think those planets would have planetary shields already (and with programmable matter it would be simple to make them) along with making self-maintaining/self-repairing replicators?
Or how about designing replicators using materials that don't require maintenance or break down in the first place?
Repairs/maintenance would only really be needed if there is a catastrophic disaster which struck and the planet lost its ability to manufacture stuff... but you'd think that if they have programmable matter, or SF has already been there, they would have supplied programmable matter early on.
Attacking a proper station wouldn't be worth it for something like the Seed Vault.
Remember how many ships the Dominion lost taking Deep Space Nine? Multiple that number by 5 to 10 times for a criminal organization attacking a proper up to date Federation space station.
Can you replicate the specific genetic patterns of seeds?
As of TNG, living matter could be replicated with something called a genatronic replicator.
No idea then. Other than being a plot point, there may be some issue with replicating seeds, but unlikely we'll ever hear of it again.
Store them in a pattern buffer a la Scotty and Riker
AyeScotty was an engineering wizard, plus he was kinda desperate at the time
Storing things as data risks losing the data (which apparently did happen to Starfleet/Federation here!). Storing the things themselves risks losing the things themselves. But losing one means losing just the one, and not the other. So it seems pretty natural to have both.
And seeds are among the easiest things to archive. They don't ask for much, and they can take all sorts of punishment. Freeze them right, and they become immune to mutations from coronal mass ejections among other things... I can really appreciate the concept of the Tikhov, then. It would be much more awkward to try and double-preserve the Mona Lisa that way, say: if there is any value attached to "the genuine original" at all, in an era of perfect replication, then sending that one to space doesn't appear all that attractive. With seeds, nobody cares about "genuine" or "original", as long as the "perfect" part is down pat.
Timo Saloniemi
And seeds are among the easiest things to archive. They don't ask for much, and they can take all sorts of punishment. Freeze them right, and they become immune to mutations from coronal mass ejections among other things... I can really appreciate the concept of the Tikhov, then. It would be much more awkward to try and double-preserve the Mona Lisa that way, say: if there is any value attached to "the genuine original" at all, in an era of perfect replication, then sending that one to space doesn't appear all that attractive. With seeds, nobody cares about "genuine" or "original", as long as the "perfect" part is down pat.
Timo Saloniemi
She could come back. David Ajala is in the main cast, but not in every episode.
Can I just say this thread make some hungry
I suspect we’ll see more of her soon.
Wasn't there an image of an aged Nhan? We didn't see that.
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