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NFL Talk - 2010-11 Season

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Partly because the Metrodome is obsolete, but mostly because of the Vikings having a lease that, to be blunt, sucks.

You are aware that the Vikings pay no rent for their usage of the Metrodome, yes?

That's only because the commission decided to forgive them that rent. If the Vikings stay in the dome any longer, they'll start having to pay it again...


the Vikings having a lease that, to be blunt, sucks.

And it expires after the 2011 season.

...and that's the reason.
 
They won't leave. Despite the stadium issues, I don't see moving a successful franchise in the 14th largest market to an unproven (or previously unsuccessful) city.

You may want to say hello to the Baltimore Colts, Oakland Raiders, Los Angeles Raiders, Houston Oilers and Cleveland Browns... who all moved purely due to stadium issues.

Houston was the 4th largest market when they lost the Oilers to Nashville, Oakland was a far smaller market when Al Davis moved the Raiders back from L.A. and Indianapolis was a smaller market when Irsay uprooted the Colts. Also, the LA Rams moved to the much smaller St. Louis market because they couldn't get Orange County to upgrade facilities.

Stadium issues have driven pretty much every team relocation in the NFL for the last three decades. Honestly... Baltimore, St. Louis, Cleveland and Houston have all had teams leave in the last three decades and were all granted new franchises. Which tells me it was never an issue of fan support.

I feel sorry for Vikings fans that the legislature has decided to stick its' collective head in the sand regarding the Vikings. They should've took care of the Vikings first before the Twins, as the Twins options for relocation were much more limited. A three to six month window exists to get something done and with LA in the mix... Zygi Wilf holds all the cards. Which means Minnesota tax payers are going to end up with a much worse deal now than if they'd taken care of the Vikings five years ago.
 
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They won't leave. Despite the stadium issues, I don't see moving a successful franchise in the 14th largest market to an unproven (or previously unsuccessful) city.

You may want to say hello to the Baltimore Colts, Oakland Raiders, Los Angeles Raiders, Houston Oilers and Cleveland Browns... who all moved purely due to stadium issues.

Houston was the 4th largest market when they lost the Oilers to Nashville, Oakland was a far smaller market when Al Davis moved the Raiders back from L.A. and Indianapolis was a smaller market when Irsay uprooted the Colts. Also, the LA Rams moved to the much smaller St. Louis market because they couldn't get Orange County to upgrade facilities.

Stadium issues have driven pretty much every team relocation in the NFL for the last three decades. Honestly... Baltimore, St. Louis, Cleveland and Houston have all had teams leave in the last three decades and were all granted new franchises. Which tells me it was never an issue of fan support.

I feel sorry for Vikings fans that the legislature has decided to stick its' collective head in the sand regarding the Vikings. They should've took care of the Vikings first before the Twins, as the Twins options for relocation were much more limited. A three to six month window exists to get something done and with LA in the mix... Zygi Wilf holds all the cards. Which means Minnesota tax payers are going to end up with a much worse deal now than if they'd taken care of the Vikings five years ago.
I'm well aware of the other franchise moves, but I don't think stadium issues were the sole reason for those moves. In the Vikings' case, the stadium is the only issue.

Using threats to relocate could help push the legislature to act, but it could also backfire. It's been played so often it's kind of seen as an empty threat (although the loss of the North Stars should remind us it may not be). It's not just the government that's hesitant to foot most of the bill for a new stadium, it's the citizens as well. I think most would give support for a reasonable proposal, but so far Wilf hasn't been very reasonable. Wilf may think he holds all the cards, but he may be overplaying his hand.
 
Wow,

Some times I think the Chiefs franchise is just cursed. Here we are, a week from the playoffs, with an improved team, and we find out our OC Charlie Weiss will be announcing on Monday that he's leaving the Chiefs to become the OC for the FL Gators.

Thanks Charlie, great timing asshole.

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^ All the reports indicate he'll remain through the Chiefs playoff run. Nothing to worry about, I would think.
 
Florida must be throwing a ton of money at him. I'd rather work in the NFL than college. Especially when my last job in the college ranks was disappointing.
 
^ All the reports indicate he'll remain through the Chiefs playoff run. Nothing to worry about, I would think.

Nothing to worry about? Do you really believe he's going to be able to give his 100% attention to the Chiefs right now? Granted, next weekend will probably be the end of the line, but still, WTF does he have to F'ing around with this now?
 
Florida must be throwing a ton of money at him. I'd rather work in the NFL than college. Especially when my last job in the college ranks was disappointing.

I'm pretty sure that there is less of a workload being a college offensive co-ordinator. Possible health issues involved here?
 
Speculation is that he may have a hard time getting along with Haley. Seems to be a pattern. Haley seems to have developed into a good coach, but if he can't get along with his coordinators, that's going to be a long term problem.
 
Speculation is that he may have a hard time getting along with Haley. Seems to be a pattern. Haley seems to have developed into a good coach, but if he can't get along with his coordinators, that's going to be a long term problem.

Haley is an ego-maniacal micro-manager. So, yeah, I can see why the OC might want to jump-ship. Just hope he sticks around for most of the PS but from some stuff I've heard/seen there were plenty of times Haley went around Weiss plenty of times on play calling.
 
^ All the reports indicate he'll remain through the Chiefs playoff run. Nothing to worry about, I would think.

Nothing to worry about? Do you really believe he's going to be able to give his 100% attention to the Chiefs right now? Granted, next weekend will probably be the end of the line, but still, WTF does he have to F'ing around with this now?
It may not be entirely in his control. If the Florida job was something he really wanted, there's the possibility that he wouldn't be able to wait until their playoff run was over to apply. Similar to NFL teams being able to start interviewing other teams' coaches and coordinators starting this upcoming week- if a playoff coach/ ccordinator wants a particular job with another team, they likely can't wait to put their hat into the ring unless the team is also very convinced that they want that particular individual as well. I doubt Weis' ability or inability to focus will be a problem for the Chiefs.
 
Well in the end it probably won't matter as I expect to see the Chiefs lose next week, Weis or no Weis. But this timing will certainly not help.

You want to hear the other crazy speculation about the next KC OC. Josh McDaniels, you know the guy Haley wouldn't shake hands with a few weeks back. I think that is utter bullshit but the story is out there.
 
So, with Bears-Packers flexed to 3:15 p.m., the Falcons-Panthers game should be more or less over by the time the Bears game starts.

So, barring a massive Panthers upset, Lovie will know before kickoff that he can't possibly get the #1 seed or lose the #2 seed, no matter what. I'll go fucking nuclear if he leaves the starters in there for more than a quarter. Trot them out there for a couple of series, let Knox get his 40 yards and Forte get his 22 so they can both have 1,000-yard seasons, then get everybody the fuck back to the bench before someone gets hurt.

It wasn't that long ago that Cutler got concussed, and the Jets game was the first time all season that the O-line managed to keep him relatively clean. He took a pretty good shot to the chin as recently as the Vikings game, too ... and if Lovie leaves him out there against Motherfucking Clay Matthews III and company, he's one bad hit away from going into the playoffs with Todd Collins under center.
 
Well in the end it probably won't matter as I expect to see the Chiefs lose next week, Weis or no Weis. But this timing will certainly not help.

You want to hear the other crazy speculation about the next KC OC. Josh McDaniels, you know the guy Haley wouldn't shake hands with a few weeks back. I think that is utter bullshit but the story is out there.

And folks this is not just about Weiss' focus, it's about the distraction to the team in general. Just NOT a good thing for a team going into the playoffs.
 
I don't blame Weis at all for leaving, considering that he and Haley hate each other.

The other consideration is that Will Muschamp is putting his staff together at UF. If Weis were to refuse to talk about the job until after the Chiefs are bounced from the playoffs, he'd almost certainly lose out on that job, with national signing day a month away and recruiting at a fever pitch. College players want to know the coaches for whom they're playing.

It's better that he tell his current team, "Hey, I'm giving you my notice, and I'm done after this season." That way, the distraction is over -- there's no frenzied speculation of "will he or won't he," or anything like that. The matter's been settled, the discussion is over, now the Chiefs can go out there and do their thing.
 
The Chiefs' offense has looked like shit for half the season. They're very much a Jekyll & Hyde team.
 
I disagree. They don't normally look THIS bad. The only other game that looked this bad was the game vs the chargers when croyle started.
 
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