NFL 2021 season - Belichick Strikes Back
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It totally depends where his head is at. Does he want to chase the payday or continue to be the voice of the World Series & the every third Super Bowl?
And will likely get another shot at a head coaching job before Eric Bieniemy gets his first.
I'd pay him 2 fucktons of money to piss off and never come back. I bet that gofundme would break records.
It's clear no matter the sport he's only in it for the money, riding Dad's coattails and having zero knowledge of the sport.
Nagy was hailed as an offensive genius when he came out of KC. What's to say Bieniemy would have any more luck as a HC? HC is a different animal than coordinator and generally, failure ensues because HC isn't about stats and routes anymore.
It isn’t about luck, it is about having a resume just as good as anyone else in recent hiring cycles.
Nagy's "resume" was as good as any...at the point the Bears hired him. He went on to prove that doesn't mean a lot since he turned out not to be HC caliber, or even capable of adjusting his offensive playcalling one bit. A lot of coordinators are not HC material because they aren't the "leader of men" they need to be.
If NFL owners aren’t hiring based on resumes, what exactly are they hiring on? *cough*race*cough* Which is why someone like Matt Nagy will get a second chance at being a head coach before Bieniemy gets a first chance.
The “leader of men” is just nonsense spouted to give NFL owners an out for not hiring minorities.
Considering Stephen A Smith "spouted" the "leader of men" thing many times, I seriously doubt that
I'm not saying the race issue isn't the real problem, but no matter the race of a guy, being a good OC or DC does not translate to being a good HC. It rarely ever does.
'Member when good people of all stripes were hired based on their records of excellence and long histories of hard work?
I 'member...
I 'member...
Since the beginning of the 21st century, only three coaches who weren’t prior offensive or defensive coordinators have won the Super Bowl.
- Tom Coughlin (2x)
- John Harbaugh (made name as Special Teams coach)
- Andy Reid (Packers offensive line coach)
So being a former offensive or defensive coordinator is usually a good jumping off point. It doesn’t mean that other coaches won’t make good coaches. But coordinators are seen as the most rounded candidates, which is why they are always at the top of coaching cycles.
Every single hire of the 2022 cycle had “x” coordinator attached to their name at some point. Only Josh McDaniels and Lovie Smith were prior head coaches, and both were coordinators prior to those jobs.
When exactly was this? Because I sure as hell don’t remember any such fine in the NFL, especially in the hiring of HC’s and
So, this is a reason why it’d be “okay” or “understandable,” to pass on Niedemyer, because we don’t know what kind of HC he’d bs?
if this is not what you meant, then what did you mean.?
Considering Stephen A Smith "spouted" the "leader of men" thing many times, I seriously doubt that.
So, you’re saying that because Steven A said this and he’s Black, then that gives the statement in question some special credibility?
Again, if this is not what you meant, then why did you mention that SaS said it as well?
Now, now… Let’s not get too full of ourselves. I had a lot of notifications recently and that one got buried in the scroll overflow.
So, my point is, prior to the establishment of the Rooney Rule back in 2003, decisions on players and staffing were generally based on skill and ability. A pure meritocracy. And it also appears that the Rooney Rule has done no favors for POC’s looking at moving into coaching positions. On this page that explores coaching demographics, there was a peak of African American coaches in 2010 (at a rather anemic 7), going up and down a few times, to only 3 as of 2019. There certainly is no shortage of talent, and lots of coaches emerge from the player rosters over time. The vast majority of players are black, so why the shortfall of black coaches when the Rooney Rule is specifically designed to address a problem that seems to have only gotten worse over the years? I’m not even going to talk about owners of color - that’s a different problem entirely.
So, it’s either broken or improperly enforced (or both, knowing that feckless boob Goodell). Either way, it’s clearly failed to do what it was intended to do for the past 20 years. It’s probably time to retire it and go back to the old way of doing things, finding the right people for the job, irrespective of ethnicity - a meritocracy, the way it should always be. I know that the “M” word wrinkles a few noses around here. Fortunately for me, I don’t really care.
So, my point is, prior to the establishment of the Rooney Rule back in 2003, decisions on players and staffing were generally based on skill and ability. A pure meritocracy. And it also appears that the Rooney Rule has done no favors for POC’s looking at moving into coaching positions. On this page that explores coaching demographics, there was a peak of African American coaches in 2010 (at a rather anemic 7), going up and down a few times, to only 3 as of 2019. There certainly is no shortage of talent, and lots of coaches emerge from the player rosters over time. The vast majority of players are black, so why the shortfall of black coaches when the Rooney Rule is specifically designed to address a problem that seems to have only gotten worse over the years? I’m not even going to talk about owners of color - that’s a different problem entirely.
So, it’s either broken or improperly enforced (or both, knowing that feckless boob Goodell). Either way, it’s clearly failed to do what it was intended to do for the past 20 years. It’s probably time to retire it and go back to the old way of doing things, finding the right people for the job, irrespective of ethnicity - a meritocracy, the way it should always be. I know that the “M” word wrinkles a few noses around here. Fortunately for me, I don’t really care.
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Oh, and you would have responded if I hadn’t left my comment about crickets.
This is utter bullshit. Sounds like it came from the NFL’s PR department. There has NEVER been a time when HC hiring practices were based solely on skill, or qualifications or merit. Race has ALWAYS been a major factor in HC hiring. How else to explain such a large population of Black players and assistant coaches, versus the perennial paucity of Black HC’s?
Because the Rooney Rule was never designed to “specifically” do anything but give the appearance that the league really wanted to do something about the racism in it’s hiring practices when it came to HC and FO positions. It’s not rocket science.
Don’t put it all on Goodell. He is a puppet of the owners and does practically nothing without their active encouragement or tacit approval. The hiring practices for HC and FO positions are reflective of racist owners.
The Rooney Rule was designed to provide massive loopholes which the owners could (and have), used to get around it. The rule is a joke and was never meant to be otherwise.
Either way, it’s clearly failed to do what it was intended to do for the past 20 years. It’s probably time to retire it and go back to the old way of doing things, finding the right people for the job, irrespective of ethnicity - a meritocracy, the way it should always be. I know that the “M” word wrinkles a few noses around here. Fortunately for me, I don’t really care.
As I said earlier; “bullshit.” Please tell me when this imaginary world of yours, when NFL HC’s were hired based solely on a meritocracy, existed? I’ve never seen it, and I’v been watching the NFL a lot longrt than you have.
To suggest that NFL HC’s were hired strictly based on qualifications and skill at ANY time in the NFL’s history is the same as saying that you think Black people must not have been qualified to be HC’s, since there have been so few of them. Is that what you’re trying to “subtlety” suggest? This is why I asked the question I asked in my original response to you. BTW, you still have not answered that question.
That you “don’t care” is likely a reason you seem to have such a cursory understanding of the issues, though the reason you also choose to pontificate on these issues escapes me. But, you’re in interesting company, because this is the same way NFL owners think about these issues.
“triggered* Not a surprise. 