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News Next Arrowverse Crossover to Include Batwoman

It's kind of weird to see a cover composition where Superman is the least emphasized character. I mean, he's about on a par with Batwoman in placement, I guess, but he's also the only character depicted as behind anything, both the pipes and the lightning, so that pushes him into the background more than the others. Also, his pose doesn't really make him feel like part of the scene. Barry and Ollie are fighting each other, Supergirl's trying to stop them, Deegan is cackling evilly at what he's wrought, Batwoman is going after Deegan, but Superman is just in a generic flying pose, his body language not reacting to anything else in the scene. So that could've been improved, though the rest is good.
To me it looks like he's flying in to either stop or join the fight.
 
To me it looks like he's flying in to either stop or join the fight.

In theory, yes, but the execution is off. He's close enough that he should be positioning his hands and body to grab one of them or hit one of them or something; that stiff, generic flying pose just makes it look like he's going to fly past them. He's the one character in the shot whose body language isn't reacting to anyone else or showing a clear intention, beyond the direction in which he's pointed.

Also, if he is trying to stop them, then he's just duplicating Supergirl's role in the shot, and that makes him seem redundant. I'd think he was added to the scene as an afterthought, except the balance of the composition would be too far to the left without him being there.


Anyway, it's weird that some random new villain's reality warp switches the Green Arrow and the Flash. Why would it do that? Even if Ollie's identity is out now, the Flash's is still secret to the world in general (even though Team Flash is startlingly cavalier about revealing it). So it's hard to believe Deegan specifically targeted these two people. So maybe they're not the only two who've been switched or altered in some way.
 
Who's the artist? There's a signature just above the Flash lightning on the lower left, but I can't tell what it says.
Amy Reeder
https://twitter.com/amyreeder/status/1063477474078720001

Higher res and quality version of the poster

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I am not too fond of that comic book cover either. It’s the poor composition of the layout. But more than that. I have no memory of seeing previous work of that artist but I am not a fan of her style. The likeness are very poor and the detailing is very rough. Surprising they went for this after last year’s by Jerry Ordway. It was reported awhile ago George Perez is doing a new drawing of the Monitor. I was hoping for the promotion instead of this. Unless it’s in the actual episodes?
 
I love it when they do comics-style covers. Who's the artist? There's a signature just above the Flash lightning on the lower left, but I can't tell what it says.

It's kind of weird to see a cover composition where Superman is the least emphasized character.

Superman is not a title character on any of the shows. Neither is Batwoman, granted, but she's got her own show in the works, so it makes sense that they'd want to promote her as much or more than they would want to hype Superman, who is only a special guest-star in this context.
 
Superman’s supporting role reminds of the JLA YEAR ONE miniseries. Which represents a period of DC history, continuity POST Crisis in which he was not a founding member of the team. Or really even a full time member at all. More of an honorary member who was only involved in League missions when absolutely necessary. Which retroactively was all the big DC crossovers. All of which has been rewritten more times than I can keep track since than!

I am sure there are limits in terms of what can be revealed to avoid spoilers. It has been said more so than last year each episode is its own story. It would be nice if after all are aired, each episode got its own cover/poster.
 
Superman is not a title character on any of the shows. Neither is Batwoman, granted, but she's got her own show in the works, so it makes sense that they'd want to promote her as much or more than they would want to hype Superman, who is only a special guest-star in this context.

Yes, the reason why is clear enough; I'm just saying that, in the larger context of comic-book history, it's unusual to see Superman presented as a secondary character. It shows how differently things have developed in the Arrowverse.
 
Superman’s supporting role reminds of the JLA YEAR ONE miniseries. Which represents a period of DC history, continuity POST Crisis in which he was not a founding member of the team. Or really even a full time member at all. More of an honorary member who was only involved in League missions when absolutely necessary. Which retroactively was all the big DC crossovers. All of which has been rewritten more times than I can keep track since than!

Isn't that normally the role Batman has normally played when it came to the Justice League?
 
Isn't that normally the role Batman has normally played when it came to the Justice League?
Yes and No.

That is true in animation.

When John Byrne rebooted Superman in 1986 there was editorial effort to keep him apart from the greater DC Universe. I believe so he could be redeveloped separate from other books. Justice League was run by different editors . At the same time Batman was very involved in the League. Which was a huge paradox conceptually. Due to Batman’s own editors more and more pushing the idea that Batman was preceived to most of the General public as a Urban Legend. Yet a member of the very public League which was chartered through the United Nations!

It’s best to remember that in the 60s, 70s, early 80s Batman was a very public Superhero. Even when the 70s brought back his early darker roots from the 30s, he was very much a public hero who was fully a JLA member. That gradually changed late 80s early 90s to being a reluctant member.

Superman fully returned to involvement with the League when the actual Superman books did “Panic in the Sky” which he lead most of the major heroes to stop a Brainiac invasion.

Of course the fact that Superman was really a founding member was rebooted back to how it started many years ago.

I personally liked the notion, continuity or not, that Superman is too busy to be hanging out with the League all the time. Most of all he has a full life as Clark Kent, the job and friends to maintain. On top of all his Superman responsibilities.
 
I am not too fond of that comic book cover either. It’s the poor composition of the layout. But more than that. I have no memory of seeing previous work of that artist but I am not a fan of her style. The likeness are very poor and the detailing is very rough. Surprising they went for this after last year’s by Jerry Ordway. It was reported awhile ago George Perez is doing a new drawing of the Monitor. I was hoping for the promotion instead of this. Unless it’s in the actual episodes?
Ooh, a Perez poster would be awesome.

I third that nomination for George Perez...in my opinion he is the greatest comic artist ever...super detail yet still feeling like a comic book.

I would love to see how he draws Arrowverse characters.
 
It’s best to remember that in the 60s, 70s, early 80s Batman was a very public Superhero.

That started in late 1941, in "The People vs. the Batman" in Batman #7. After Bruce Wayne and Batman were both separately framed for murder, Batman brought in the real killer during Bruce's trial, and Commissioner Gordon then publicly vouched for Batman and Robin as heroes and made them honorary members of the police. (Surprisingly, Superman remained a vigilante hunted by the authorities for some time longer.)
 
You are right of course. I guess I started in the 60s because the Justice League of America first appeared in comics 1960.

Superman and Batman being members of the Justice Society before that is a little complicated. They mostly were just honorary members rarely appearing in actual stories during the book’s original run.
 
Superman and Batman being members of the Justice Society before that is a little complicated. They mostly were just honorary members rarely appearing in actual stories during the book’s original run.
You could count their appearances on one hand and have fingers left over. :lol:
 
Interesting teaser:

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I thought the joke would be she switches with Superman. Wouldn't be much of a difference. :)
 
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