News? Stories from Dubious Sources

[HotRod]

SNW is not going to be on the air forever.

If only.

At best, it has another two seasons left after Season 3

Says who?

You trust Starfleet Academy to carry the mantle of the entire franchise?

Yes? No? Maybe? For all we know, the Academy series could end up being an amazing peice of Television. Being that not a single frame of it has been filmed, no one knows how it's going to turn out. I'll wait until I see the product before I throw it under the bus.

 

[Campe]

The Good Fight costs less to produce than Disco. You're comparing apples to oranges.

TGF doesn't have Disco's expensive VFX.

Lower Decks may well go seven seasons given that it costs less to produce than Disco.

Six seasons compared to five isn't a terrible stretch.

The days of shows going on and on into eternity (NCIS, Law & Order, Law & Order: SVU, Grey's Anatomy ) are over (ABC is cancelling The Good Doctor after seven seasons).

You miss my point. Or you don’t know the definition of the word “proclivity.”

 

[Danja]

OT: I suppose a merger is as good a reason as any to pull the plug on NCIS (CBS: "You've been here twenty years. Out you go!").

There are adults who are alive today who hadn't been born when The Simpsons first went on the air in 1989!

Then again, The Simpsons are now going on THIRTY-FIVE years at Fox.

 

[fireproof78]

You trust Starfleet Academy to carry the mantle of the entire franchise?

Fuck yes, I do!

 

[The Wormhole]

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if SNW did end after the fifth season. It's not that uncommon for a lot of shows to voluntarily pull the plug after five seasons. Indeed, that was the same reasoning I've been using for years to back my prediction that Disco would end with its fifth season, and that turned out to be accurate!

 

[Campe]

I hope for more. But honestly I wouldn’t be surprised either. 50 hours just isn’t enough with this crew.

 

[Tuskin38]

(given P+'s proclivity for cancelling shows after five seasons).

There's no pattern suggesting this.

 

[fireproof78]

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if SNW did end after the fifth season. It's not that uncommon for a lot of shows to voluntarily pull the plug after five seasons. Indeed, that was the same reasoning I've been using for years to back my prediction that Disco would end with its fifth season, and that turned out to be accurate!

Every season is a gift.

 

[Mudd]

I don't care what happens to Trek after SNW, unless it's an SNW follow-on project headed by the same people.

 

[HotRod]

I don't care what happens to Trek after SNW, unless it's an SNW follow-on project headed by the same people.

I'll gladly take TOS remake with Paul Wesley.

 

[Danja]

I'll gladly take TOS remake with Paul Wesley.

They're saving that for the feature film franchise (Chris Pine & Co.)

 

[eschaton]

I honestly wish Trek fans weren't so tied up with insistence on continuity (which they mistakenly call canon) because I'd love a TOS reboot where they just straight-up redo original-era stories with a more modern twist.

Reinterpretation, after all, is one of the most interesting parts of narrative.

 

[HotRod]

They're saving that for the feature film franchise (Chris Pine & Co.)

Which is likely, for all intent and purposes, dead.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. My ideal Star Trek 60th Anniversary would be some grand adventure that ends with Pike handing over the Enterprise to Kirk. Bringing the entire franchise full circle. Make it one of these upcoming TV movies that they're supposedly making.

I honestly think any effort to put Trek on the big screen, will be met with further diminishing returns. But the TV movie route, might be the way to go. Trek was always better on TV anyways.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Which is likely, for all intensive purposes, dead.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. My ideal Star Trek 60th Anniversary would be some grand adventure that ends with Pike handing over the Enterprise to Kirk. Bringing the entire franchise full circle. Make it one of these upcoming TV movies that they're supposedly making.

I honestly think any effort to put Trek on the big screen, will be met with further diminishing returns. But the TV movie route, might be the way to go. Trek was always better on TV anyways.

 

[Danja]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. My ideal Star Trek 60th Anniversary would be some grand adventure that ends with Pike handing over the Enterprise to Kirk. Bringing the entire franchise full circle. Make it one of these upcoming TV movies that they're supposedly making.

They can always do a SNW streaming movie.

 

[LtChange]

I honestly wish Trek fans weren't so tied up with insistence on continuity (which they mistakenly call canon) because I'd love a TOS reboot where they just straight-up redo original-era stories with a more modern twist.

Reinterpretation, after all, is one of the most interesting parts of narrative.

Would love that too. SNW just to transit intro a TOS Reboot (Phase II? ) that tackles some of the original episodes (like 2-3/season that will show the effects of the changed timeline to the stories in the spirit of the fact that major points in time remain) but also brings in new stories in that era.

 

[eschaton]

Would love that too. SNW just to transit intro a TOS Reboot (Phase II? ) that tackles some of the original episodes (like 2-3/season that will show the effects of the changed timeline to the stories in the spirit of the fact that major points in time remain) but also brings in new stories in that era.

I don't even think we'd need a "changed timeline" so to speak. Just reboots that don't feel beholden to every line of dialogue and bit of plot minutiae.

Given how self-contained TOS episodes are, revisiting most of them (other than Space Seed perhaps) wouldn't change anything of note anyway.

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

I don't want a "TOS Reboot" because:
a) Obsession over TOS is getting out of hand. We have TOS, TAS, Kelvin, DIS (at first), and SNW. It's time to move on.
b) It will justify all the "DiScOvErSe IsN't CaNoN" people. Much better to act like it flows seamlessly (even if it doesn't) then to say "Yup, the stuff you don't like is in a different timeline and was the whole time."
c) It's creatively bankrupt to remake those old episodes instead of doing something new with a new crew.
d) It will spark all sorts of stupid arguments about what's in what timeline. "Is TNG: The Naked Now referencing TOS: The Naked Time or SNW2: The Naked Time?"
e) Why? If you want to revisit an idea from TOS, just have a new crew encounter something similar.
f) There are so many ridiculous and out there ideas in TOS that remaking it would require a significant amount of effort to rework it for modern audiences. Why bother?
g) If you want more of the SNW cast, just make more SNW. It's going to grab all the TOS cast over time anyway.
j) Look, I don't have this many points, I just want a point for every Enterprise.

 

[UssGlenn]

Would love that too. SNW just to transit intro a TOS Reboot (Phase II? ) that tackles some of the original episodes (like 2-3/season that will show the effects of the changed timeline to the stories in the spirit of the fact that major points in time remain) but also brings in new stories in that era.

There's no need to remake episodes, just set new stories between the old ones, reference the episodes happening "last week", and maybe make a few sequels. But I wouldn't say no to full one hour remakes of the better TAS episodes.

 

[James Cole]

I honestly wish Trek fans weren't so tied up with insistence on continuity (which they mistakenly call canon) because I'd love a TOS reboot where they just straight-up redo original-era stories with a more modern twist.

Reinterpretation, after all, is one of the most interesting parts of narrative.

Didn't they do a lot of that in the Abramsverse set IDW comics?

How about we pull a page from BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, and just reboot every 20 years? Hell, soon enough an AI should be able to accomplish it, akin to upscaling a standard def master to HD.

Many Star Trek fans like the franchise because of the large established lore and universe building. Why couldn't a follow up to certain TOS plot points that keeps all that continuity not work set in say in the mid 25th century?