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New writers speak

I enjoyed them referring to Star Wars and Indiana Jones as "all those chestnuts from the period." :lol:

I don't see anything there to suggest that the plan for Star Trek 3 is to go villainless.

Wont it be fascinating if Star Trek 3 turns out to be a better film than Star Wars Episode 7? What are the chances of that?
 
From a marketing standpoint, I think Paramount will insist on an adversary of some sort.

Over-the-top villains like Khan are nice to have, but are not necessary for every film unless you insist on conforming the franchise to the superhero comic-book mold.

You mean, the movies that actually make big money for the studios.
 
From a marketing standpoint, I think Paramount will insist on an adversary of some sort.

Over-the-top villains like Khan are nice to have, but are not necessary for every film unless you insist on conforming the franchise to the superhero comic-book mold.

You mean, the movies that actually make big money for the studios.

Nemesis had an over-the-top villain in Shinzon. Didn't make big money. It takes more than a rug-chewing villain to put butts in seats.

BTW, the top movie of the last year was Frozen, which featured a theatrical but not very "evil" villain in Elsa. Hans became the evil one, but he was not the draw of the film. If anything he dragged the film down the most, because he was the least credible.

It's just not necessary to have over-the-top mustache-twisting villains to make money.
 
I am a fan so I would choose quality over quantity. which means Ii rather have an excellent story and not have the film make much money bot goes on to become a classic and ends up making more money than it ever did during its run in the cinemas.

however the big bosses in the studio care about money over a good story.

so we all want success just different kinds of success. fans will choose quality success, the big producers will choose quantity success. so what do we do?
 
There are other ways of creating blockbuster mayhem with exciting action and laughs without The Big Black Hat villain. It just has to “look f**king awesome” in the previews and you’ll get them in. Giant robots, exploding buildings, screaming people, some dubstep on the soundtrack and BLANG: Zillion Dollar Opening Weekend.

Throw in a story about something a little deeper in the mix and there ya go.
 
Some more from the writing team in part 2 of Trekcore's interview.

I'm slowly feeling better about this movie the more I hear from these writers and also Orci is separate interviews. I'm happy at least that the movie will be set in deep space and have a more exploration based theme. I'm also glad the origin story aspect can finally be put to rest and we can get more mature versions of the characters. I was getting tired of the constant Kirk insta-promotions/demotions and the Star-Trek-90210-teen-angst feel of some of the characters. I like how the interviewer called them out on that.
 
Over-the-top villains like Khan are nice to have, but are not necessary for every film unless you insist on conforming the franchise to the superhero comic-book mold.

You mean, the movies that actually make big money for the studios.

Nemesis had an over-the-top villain in Shinzon. Didn't make big money. It takes more than a rug-chewing villain to put butts in seats.

BTW, the top movie of the last year was Frozen, which featured a theatrical but not very "evil" villain in Elsa. Hans became the evil one, but he was not the draw of the film. If anything he dragged the film down the most, because he was the least credible.

It's just not necessary to have over-the-top mustache-twisting villains to make money.

Blade Runner had a charismatic villain but he wasn't really the villain was he?
 
Roy Batty wasn't the villian, no. Tyrell, I suppose, was. He, his company, and its subsidiaries didn't just create "Replicants." They also created the situation the whole movie revolves around. And it's very clear that this is the case, because of the manner in how he meets his end. He's informed from the source as to what the problem really is with his product and given the opportunity to do something about it. When he stubbornly refuses to explore the matter farther than he already has, Tyrell gets what's coming to him. Unfortunately, though, the system is still in place and the only way to really deal with the replicant problem remains the way the system is set up to handle it.
 
i was hoping for exploration so bad. I am pumped.
I'm not so sure. Maybe it's because I love the Trek mythos so much and enjoy seeing stories which delve into it, and am weary after so many generic aliens of the week in TNG, VOY and ENT. Gonna keep an open mind, though.
 
I thought stories about exploration were most of the Trek mythos. :shrug:
What's interesting in the mythos is the more popular aspects are the ones that are not about exploration. TWOK, TUC, FC are all epic clashes with big villains.

Even some of the more popular TOS episodes are ones like "Balance of Terror" or the "Doomsday Machine," just as quick references.

I personally am hoping for more exploration too, but I have a feeling it will be exposing a threat and then having to prevent it from getting to Earth.
 
I'm hoping for something with a lot of suspense. I'll be interested regardless, but something that inspires the same tension I felt the first time I watched "Balance of Terror" would be awesome.
 
What we keep on coming back to is the basic credo of Star Trek, that opening prologue you hear at the beginning of each Original Series episode. That's our mantra for what we're trying to accomplish here.
They at least say a lot of things people like to hear, you gotta give them that.

[ETA: Just read the part where J.D. Payne draws parallels between Millenials and nuKirk. I withdraw my earlier statement :lol:]

Still very much looking forward to it.
 
Yeah, it's a very generic "Love you, baby, you're looking good" kind of interview. Tells us bupkis about the next movie.
 
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