New TOS discoveries in HD/DVD

[ScatmanRescueMe]

Just watched 'Conscience...'

I always thought Lenore had two raised moles on her chin just down from the left corner of her mouth.

But after rewatching it---I'm pretty sure they were zits!!

There are very visible at Leighton's house and on the bridge, but in the shuttle observation deck there are just not there or only minutely visible.
Since they are raised up in the other scenes and make-up cannot flatten a mole---only hide its color, I really think it was a pimple outbreak.

No offense to the actress, she's smoking hot, did a great job in the episode and was barely a kid of 19 or 20 during filming.

 

[trevanian]

Just watched 'Conscience...'

I always thought Lenore had two raised moles on her chin just down from the left corner of her mouth.

But after rewatching it---I'm pretty sure they were zits!!

There are very visible at Leighton's house and on the bridge, but in the shuttle observation deck there are just not there or only minutely visible.
Since they are raised up in the other scenes and make-up cannot flatten a mole---only hide its color, I really think it was a pimple outbreak.

No offense to the actress, she's smoking hot, did a great job in the episode and was barely a kid of 19 or 20 during filming.

According to the actress (who I'm pretty sure was 30, not 20, she was playing a veteran policewoman on IRONSIDE around the same time) in an old interview (maybe STARLOG? STAR TREK INTERVIEW BOOK), she had a cold sore that week.

 

[Green Shirt]

In Miri........Also i noticed that Jahn clearly takes just 5 communicators so i don't know what the deal was. Why did the security guards leave their communicators inside on the tables anyway?

Didn't you ever leave your cellphone on the table?

Doug

I found mine in the washing machine last week.

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

She was 20.............


http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0026392/

 

[Forbin]

Just watched 'Conscience...'

I always thought Lenore had two raised moles on her chin just down from the left corner of her mouth.

But after rewatching it---I'm pretty sure they were zits!!

There are very visible at Leighton's house and on the bridge, but in the shuttle observation deck there are just not there or only minutely visible.
Since they are raised up in the other scenes and make-up cannot flatten a mole---only hide its color, I really think it was a pimple outbreak.

No offense to the actress, she's smoking hot, did a great job in the episode and was barely a kid of 19 or 20 during filming.

According to the actress (who I'm pretty sure was 30, not 20, she was playing a veteran policewoman on IRONSIDE around the same time) in an old interview (maybe STARLOG? STAR TREK INTERVIEW BOOK), she had a cold sore that week.

Yet another piece of evidence in my point that 60s TV may be best when viewed at its intended resolution.

According to IMDB, Barbara Anderson was born in 1945, so she was in her early 20s at the time.

 

[barnaclelapse]

I quite honestly would have to agree with that overall.

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

Just watched 'Conscience...'

I always thought Lenore had two raised moles on her chin just down from the left corner of her mouth.

But after rewatching it---I'm pretty sure they were zits!!

There are very visible at Leighton's house and on the bridge, but in the shuttle observation deck there are just not there or only minutely visible.
Since they are raised up in the other scenes and make-up cannot flatten a mole---only hide its color, I really think it was a pimple outbreak.

No offense to the actress, she's smoking hot, did a great job in the episode and was barely a kid of 19 or 20 during filming.

According to the actress (who I'm pretty sure was 30, not 20, she was playing a veteran policewoman on IRONSIDE around the same time) in an old interview (maybe STARLOG? STAR TREK INTERVIEW BOOK), she had a cold sore that week.

Yet another piece of evidence in my point that 60s TV may be best when viewed at its intended resolution.

No actually that's wrong.............as usual. In this case you didn't even bother to read the post and understand.

The zit/cold sore WAS visible all along way back in TV/VHS days.
It was the fact that it was NOT visible at all in the observation room that was noticed when I saw it in Blu-ray. I assumed it was there in the observation room scene all these years, but that the resolution wasn't able to pick it up in that rather dark scene. But I could clearly see it was not there even in better resolution. It clearly was not there during the entire shoot--only during part of that week apparently.

But hey like the other guy was saying your pathetic attempts to keep bringing back the 'TOS doesn't need/look good in hi-def' is just so sad.

Not a single informative post out of what? 25---just the lame agenda.
Laugh all you want--anybody can see it's an agenda.

You just want to be right so bad. Facts/scmacts right?

 

[GSchnitzer]

Just watched 'Conscience...'

I always thought Lenore had two raised moles on her chin just down from the left corner of her mouth.

But after rewatching it---I'm pretty sure they were zits!!

There are very visible at Leighton's house and on the bridge, but in the shuttle observation deck there are just not there or only minutely visible.
Since they are raised up in the other scenes and make-up cannot flatten a mole---only hide its color, I really think it was a pimple outbreak.

No offense to the actress, she's smoking hot, did a great job in the episode and was barely a kid of 19 or 20 during filming.

According to the actress (who I'm pretty sure was 30, not 20, she was playing a veteran policewoman on IRONSIDE around the same time) in an old interview (maybe STARLOG? STAR TREK INTERVIEW BOOK), she had a cold sore that week.

Yet another piece of evidence in my point that 60s TV may be best when viewed at its intended resolution.

According to IMDB, Barbara Anderson was born in 1945, so she was in her early 20s at the time.

Although Lenore Karidian was 19 years old, "The Consicience of the King" was filmed in late September--which was two months before Barbara Anderson's 21st birthday in late November--which of course made her 20 at the time.

The following year, she started playing the newly-minted (not veteran) police officer Eve Whitfield on Ironside--for which Barbara Andeson won an Emmy for "Outstanding Performance By an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Drama" for the 1967-1968 season.

 

[Grant]

She was hot. I just love those Hazel eyes with the starburst effect in the end scene when they showed the extreme close-up of her face.

One of the younger actress' to have such a large part too.
A lot of pretty young girls had parts in TOS, but the range of emotions she had to play and the number of long scenes was impressive. Darn good work for a 20 year old!!

 

[SonicRanger]

Although I'm sure this was noticed prior to DVD, it was not until I saw the DVD, after years of watching over-the-air broadcasts and worn-out VHS tapes recorded from said broadcasts, that I released just how shear this outfit was (rather than appearing more like a muumuu):

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x04/TOS_2x10_MirrorMirror0289-Trekpulse.jpg

 

[Grant]

Although I'm sure this was noticed prior to DVD, it was not until I saw the DVD, after years of watching over-the-air broadcasts and worn-out VHS tapes recorded from said broadcasts, that I released just how shear this outfit was (rather than appearing more like a muumuu):

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x04/TOS_2x10_MirrorMirror0289-Trekpulse.jpg

You see that's just the kind of thing i want to see in 1,000,000p resolution.
Rand in that nightgown too. I'm always looking at those 'bumps' in that scene. Cold on the set?

 

[jefferiestubes8]

1960s television resolution and Blu-rays

Yet another piece of evidence in my point that 60s TV may be best when viewed at its intended resolution.

A good comparison will be "The Prisoner" (1967)
A&E will be bringing the 1968 sci-fi classic 'The Prisoner: Complete Series' to Blu-ray will be available in high-definition on October 27.
Runtime: 50 min (x 17 episodes)
SOURCE
It was made the same year as Season 2 of TOS.
You can bet they will have used one of these sources for the HD telecine:
1. Original Camera negative
2. internegative (2nd generation)
imdb.com says aspect ratio 1.33:1 one but we'll see if they crop it for Academy format, which is actually 1.37 but often erroneously called 1.33:1
or 1.66:1 (the European "flat" ratio) as many British feature films were framed for but not necessarily television until the 1990s

14:9 is a compromise aspect ratio[ conceived following audience tests conducted by the BBC. It is used by most UK, Australian and Irish terrestrial analog networks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14:9

I'd love to see the mostly-studio-shot 1966-68 Batman TV series (120 episodes) on Blu-ray in HD. The link discusses the politics behind why we haven't seen it though...

 

[Captain Robert April]

Short version: 20th Century Fox and Warner Brothers can't play nice when it comes to Batman.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I really like the HD versions. The colors really grab you. It shows how colorful Trek used to be before it got dull in the 80s.


-Chris

But no one saw those colors right? I dont remember seeing the colors like i am now. TV, back then, was over the air and, at least where I lived, not perfect. I think we are seeing things that no other viewers ever saw before...


Rob

 

[Forbin]

According to the actress (who I'm pretty sure was 30, not 20, she was playing a veteran policewoman on IRONSIDE around the same time) in an old interview (maybe STARLOG? STAR TREK INTERVIEW BOOK), she had a cold sore that week.

Yet another piece of evidence in my point that 60s TV may be best when viewed at its intended resolution.

No actually that's wrong.............as usual. In this case you didn't even bother to read the post and understand.

The zit/cold sore WAS visible all along way back in TV/VHS days.
It was the fact that it was NOT visible at all in the observation room that was noticed when I saw it in Blu-ray. I assumed it was there in the observation room scene all these years, but that the resolution wasn't able to pick it up in that rather dark scene. But I could clearly see it was not there even in better resolution. It clearly was not there during the entire shoot--only during part of that week apparently.

But hey like the other guy was saying your pathetic attempts to keep bringing back the 'TOS doesn't need/look good in hi-def' is just so sad.

Not a single informative post out of what? 25---just the lame agenda.
Laugh all you want--anybody can see it's an agenda.

You just want to be right so bad. Facts/scmacts right?

Oh good, now I have a second stalker! Hey mods, how much are these personal attacks contributing to the thread?

Sorry that my dissenting opinion is so hard for you folks to take.

- John - sad, uninformative, pathetic luddite.

 

[guardian]

I really like the HD versions. The colors really grab you. It shows how colorful Trek used to be before it got dull in the 80s.


-Chris

But no one saw those colors right? I dont remember seeing the colors like i am now. TV, back then, was over the air and, at least where I lived, not perfect. I think we are seeing things that no other viewers ever saw before...


Rob

Right. Standard def TV is/was not capable of showing the colors that brightly.

I absolutely love how the halls have the colors projected on them in the first half of season 1. When the door to the Rec room or briefing room open and you see all that color--it's very cool. I noticed it before of course, but now it is so bright and it 'pops' (I hate that word, but it is apt)
They clearly worked hard to make the show look bold in the early days and I'm glad it can be seen the way they set it up.

 

[Forbin]

Agreed, I always loved how they used color. It was the fairly early days of color broadcasting and Trek was one of the shows that went out of its way to use the medium.

 

[Hambone]

Agreed, I always loved how they used color. It was the fairly early days of color broadcasting and Trek was one of the shows that went out of its way to use the medium.

In the fall of 1966, we still had a black-and-white console TV in the living room. My dad watched Star Trek every week and I watched with him. I vaguely remember the early episodes..."The Menagerie" creeped me out because of the vegetative Cpt. Pike.

Then I remember one night visiting the appliance store with my family. They had a whole row of RCA color televisions, and "Star Trek" was on every one of them...in all it's primary color/pastel-soaked glory. As we walked out of the store my dad turned to my mom and said "We have to get a color set". A week later we were watching "A Taste of Armageddon" in color!

NBC was at the forefront of color programming because its parent company, RCA, manufactured the most successful line of color sets...therefore the order came down that all NBC programming (including, of course, Star Trek) would make full use of this technology.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Agreed, I always loved how they used color. It was the fairly early days of color broadcasting and Trek was one of the shows that went out of its way to use the medium.

In the fall of 1966, we still had a black-and-white console TV in the living room. My dad watched Star Trek every week and I watched with him. I vaguely remember the early episodes..."The Menagerie" creeped me out because of the vegetative Cpt. Pike.

Then I remember one night visiting the appliance store with my family. They had a whole row of RCA color televisions, and "Star Trek" was on every one of them...in all it's primary color/pastel-soaked glory. As we walked out of the store my dad turned to my mom and said "We have to get a color set". A week later we were watching "A Taste of Armageddon" in color!

NOW THAT was a cool story. The first episode I saw in color was Amok Time in the second season.

Rob

 

[Grant]

We all actually agree about the bold use of color during season 1 of trek.

When I started watching trek in 1970 we still had a color set and when we got a color set shortly thereafter---it was a revelation. Since then every format has turned up the color closer to its 'on-set' brightness and now I'm ecstatic to see the colors of season one in full glory.

Just about to watch Menagarie and already just from the first two minutes I can see the heavy use of color in this episode.
Also from a previous viewing Menagarie part 1 has perhaps the best 'clean-up job' of any remastered episode. Hardly a speck any kind.