New To Voyager
- Thread starter Garren
- Start date
Most of the Maquis who outrank Kim, did not go to the Academy at all.
In the second episode Chakotay puffed his chest out that his people needed representation in the higher ranks so that they can get by without being relegated to some sort of subjugated servant class which really would not do.
In the second episode Chakotay puffed his chest out that his people needed representation in the higher ranks so that they can get by without being relegated to some sort of subjugated servant class which really would not do.
Me too. Just because he was captain of his own ship... I think it should have been Tuvok. The other thing that bothered me was that in season 1 he was the first person Janeway went to for advice and then Chakotay took his place. It seemed odd considering how long they had known eachother. Just because Chakotay is First Officer suddenly he replaces Tuvok.
Well, Chakotay, arguments prevailing, was a Lieutenant Commander when Janeway welcomed him back in from the cold in Caretaker, but Tuvok was only a Lieutenant, even though the Wardrobe department frakked up his costume over the course of the first year, so that his pips were inconsistent and/or misleading, but we did see his promotion party in early season 4.
Now, would you like to talk at length about Commander Josiah Bartlett?
Until season 4, Tuvok and Tom were the same rank.
Now, would you like to talk at length about Commander Josiah Bartlett?
I don't know who that is.
There was a casualty list near the end that hilariously listed the cast of The West Wing as Officers aboard Voyager.
(President) Josiah Bartlett is the character played by Martin Sheen for 7 years on the West Wing.
(President) Josiah Bartlett is the character played by Martin Sheen for 7 years on the West Wing.
Heard of it, never watched it.
Heard of it?
Sweet Zombie Jesus.
You're going to give me some excuse like "I was 5 years old when it stared" and then I'm going to run away crying.
The West Wing was invented by Aaron Sorkin who is responsible for The News Room Currently.
If you're not watching The News Room, then there's no hope for you.
Sweet Zombie Jesus.
You're going to give me some excuse like "I was 5 years old when it stared" and then I'm going to run away crying.
The West Wing was invented by Aaron Sorkin who is responsible for The News Room Currently.
If you're not watching The News Room, then there's no hope for you.
I've not watched either show, but I've not been able to receive broadcast signals since about 2003.
But back to Tuvok. How is it he was in Starfleet originally long enough to be an ensign, took about a 60 year sabbatical, rejoined the service, Janeway had worked with him nearly 7 years prior to the series, and is still only a lieutenant?
But back to Tuvok. How is it he was in Starfleet originally long enough to be an ensign, took about a 60 year sabbatical, rejoined the service, Janeway had worked with him nearly 7 years prior to the series, and is still only a lieutenant?
Tuvok was a teacher at Starfleet Academy.
Promotion would have meant that he would have had to do more admin and less teaching.
Rank is about how much staff you are allowed to command or/and expected to command.
You get more rank when it seems like you can do more, and (possibly) that you want to do more.
Is it possible that they kept trying to promote Tuvok but he turned them down constantly because it would have gotten in the way of his teaching?
Does Starfleet rank = Academic Rank?
Have we heard of a Commandant positioned/staffed in any other local than Starfleet Academy?
O'Brien, after DS9, was going to be teaching Engineering at Starfleet Academy despite being enlisted? Was he going to receive a massive promotion to teach cadets? Or was he going to leave the service?
Position supersedes rank.
O'Brien was made tactical officer aboard the Rutledge despite not being an officer, and as Chief of Operations he was able to boss around Lieutenants because he had operational command over his superiors within the niche that was his job, because he knew how to get stuff done better than they did. Outside of that niche, an ensign can order him to do starjumps for infinity.
Tuvok could have been the Dean of Archery Science and still only been a Lieutenant?
I assume that there are even civilians instructing at the academy who have no rank. Hell cadets have no rank. Do third year cadets have seniority (How Officers of the same rank measure their peckers) over first year cadets and therefore the ability to order infinity starjumps?
Doing your job doesn't get you promoted. Doing more than your job gets you promoted, but if it's possible that the academic rank is not the same as Starfleet rank, then it's redundant surely that you can be promoted for both at different rates along each command track because of your work as a teacher in a teaching institution is what it is.
Promotion would have meant that he would have had to do more admin and less teaching.
Rank is about how much staff you are allowed to command or/and expected to command.
You get more rank when it seems like you can do more, and (possibly) that you want to do more.
Is it possible that they kept trying to promote Tuvok but he turned them down constantly because it would have gotten in the way of his teaching?
Does Starfleet rank = Academic Rank?
Have we heard of a Commandant positioned/staffed in any other local than Starfleet Academy?
O'Brien, after DS9, was going to be teaching Engineering at Starfleet Academy despite being enlisted? Was he going to receive a massive promotion to teach cadets? Or was he going to leave the service?
Position supersedes rank.
O'Brien was made tactical officer aboard the Rutledge despite not being an officer, and as Chief of Operations he was able to boss around Lieutenants because he had operational command over his superiors within the niche that was his job, because he knew how to get stuff done better than they did. Outside of that niche, an ensign can order him to do starjumps for infinity.
Tuvok could have been the Dean of Archery Science and still only been a Lieutenant?
I assume that there are even civilians instructing at the academy who have no rank. Hell cadets have no rank. Do third year cadets have seniority (How Officers of the same rank measure their peckers) over first year cadets and therefore the ability to order infinity starjumps?
Doing your job doesn't get you promoted. Doing more than your job gets you promoted, but if it's possible that the academic rank is not the same as Starfleet rank, then it's redundant surely that you can be promoted for both at different rates along each command track because of your work as a teacher in a teaching institution is what it is.
Heard of it?
Sweet Zombie Jesus.
You're going to give me some excuse like "I was 5 years old when it stared" and then I'm going to run away crying.
The West Wing was invented by Aaron Sorkin who is responsible for The News Room Currently.
If you're not watching The News Room, then there's no hope for you.
Actually I was 9 and no, not watching The News Room. I guess I should change my username to Hopeless now.
Grandma watched the West Wing because Charlie Sheen's dad was smoking hot in Apocalypse Now.
Grandma has good taste.
The first 8 minutes of the Newsroom Pilot where the lead has a hilarious meltdown in front of a few thousand iphone cameras.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zqOYBabXmA[/yt]
Grandma has good taste.
The first 8 minutes of the Newsroom Pilot where the lead has a hilarious meltdown in front of a few thousand iphone cameras.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zqOYBabXmA[/yt]
'
aaaaaaaaahaha and here I thought you were making a hilair joke because of the age comments in this thread.
Where I come from, old people watched something called Coronation Street.
It sucked and still sucks.
3 nights a week for 54 years.
It's unstoppable.
It sucked and still sucks.
3 nights a week for 54 years.
It's unstoppable.
How long would it take to marathon it I wonder.
Similar threads
