John Hamm sounds like the kind of name you would find on someone playing fullback for the University of Nebraska.
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I bought the first season today and have viewed the pilot episode. I enjoyed it very much and look forward to more.
-doubleoh, impressed.
-doubleoh, impressed.
You'll like it. It perfects the slow build storyline.
The first season managed to be pretty entertaining, which is more than I can say for S2 so far.
And this coming from someone who never got impatient with Lost, well not very much anyway. There's a difference between glacial pacing and being so stalled out that time seems to be moving backwards.If someone would just put their fist through Don Draper's face, that would be a definite improvement. I'm getting sick of his wife, too.
Peggy and Pete need to get into a BIG fight. Basically something needs to happen. Any time now would be good.
Freddie Rumsen is going to end up killing himself. I continue to be less and less impressed with Don. He tells Roger that it doesn't bother him what's happened to his marriage? What the hell is wrong with Don? He's completely professional and loyal to everyone at work, but behaves despicably with his wife. It was funny as hell when Mona stormed into his office to bitch at him. I anyone deserves crap flung at him, it's Don.
Roger, Roger, Roger.....two years from now when your little honey is whining because all your money is going towards alimony, you're going to realize that you made the mistake of your life. What a tool you are.
Betty's heading towards a breakdown. She's teetering on the edge. Hopefully her daddy will leave her a ton of money so she can ask for a divorce whether or not she can prove Don's infidelity. That's why she's so desperate to get into his desk. If she asks for the divorce and can't prove it, he won't cop to it. He'll make her look like a crazy woman in court and screw her financially. That's why he won't ask for a divorce. Bastard. Poor Betty. She'd have been better off if he'd left her for Rachel. Rachel wouldn't have been, but Betty would have been. Don truly is a dick.
Roger, Roger, Roger.....two years from now when your little honey is whining because all your money is going towards alimony, you're going to realize that you made the mistake of your life. What a tool you are.
Betty's heading towards a breakdown. She's teetering on the edge. Hopefully her daddy will leave her a ton of money so she can ask for a divorce whether or not she can prove Don's infidelity. That's why she's so desperate to get into his desk. If she asks for the divorce and can't prove it, he won't cop to it. He'll make her look like a crazy woman in court and screw her financially. That's why he won't ask for a divorce. Bastard. Poor Betty. She'd have been better off if he'd left her for Rachel. Rachel wouldn't have been, but Betty would have been. Don truly is a dick.
What a hard hitting episode that was last Sunday night. Painful. I can understand why Pete's such a mess. His mother and father were so cuddly and caring. It's a credit to him that he didn't grow up and blow both their heads off. I wanted to kill that old hag when she started talking about adopted children as "discards."
Betty's situation was more heartbreaking. I don't know what's worse; her petty guilt tripping brother or her father grabbing her breast at the dinner table because he thinks she's her late mother. No wonder she's so stilted and scared. Kudos to her for one night standing Don and then holding her ground when he assumed that meant he was coming home. I loved it. It's just a one night stand, Don. We were pretending. You don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do you, Don? You still deserve it. Creep.
Sheesh, I hope she doesn't get knocked up from their encounter. An abortion storyline in this time period would be timely, though. Betty could be desperate not to get tied further to Don.
Betty's situation was more heartbreaking. I don't know what's worse; her petty guilt tripping brother or her father grabbing her breast at the dinner table because he thinks she's her late mother. No wonder she's so stilted and scared. Kudos to her for one night standing Don and then holding her ground when he assumed that meant he was coming home. I loved it. It's just a one night stand, Don. We were pretending. You don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do you, Don? You still deserve it. Creep.
Sheesh, I hope she doesn't get knocked up from their encounter. An abortion storyline in this time period would be timely, though. Betty could be desperate not to get tied further to Don.
If there was a stranger, and more discomfiting scene than Betty sitting on the couch holding hands with the neighbor child, I'm not sure what it is.
And its clear at this point Mad Men is not going to let the viewer off the hook easily. Nearly every encounter - Peter and Peggy, Pete and brother/mother/wife, Sheila and Paul, Paul and Joan, Betty and the neighbor kid, Don and Roger, and well, Don and everyone for that matter, has uncomfortable nuance bubbling underneath. It's a good show. But a show that prefers keep you outside of your comfort zone.
Of the many plot lines for the secondary characters, I feel Paul and Sheila heading to Mississippi to register voters may be one of the most significant. Last seen, Paul was holding court in his blow hard manner sounding as self important and self deluded as usual. But the situation he's headed into, as history clearly shows us, is fraught with peril and an eye opening look at life at its ugliest. Character change in Mad Men is slow, often glacial. But I think this time we're in for a sudden game changer.
And its clear at this point Mad Men is not going to let the viewer off the hook easily. Nearly every encounter - Peter and Peggy, Pete and brother/mother/wife, Sheila and Paul, Paul and Joan, Betty and the neighbor kid, Don and Roger, and well, Don and everyone for that matter, has uncomfortable nuance bubbling underneath. It's a good show. But a show that prefers keep you outside of your comfort zone.
Of the many plot lines for the secondary characters, I feel Paul and Sheila heading to Mississippi to register voters may be one of the most significant. Last seen, Paul was holding court in his blow hard manner sounding as self important and self deluded as usual. But the situation he's headed into, as history clearly shows us, is fraught with peril and an eye opening look at life at its ugliest. Character change in Mad Men is slow, often glacial. But I think this time we're in for a sudden game changer.
That certainly made me think, "ah-hah, something is finally happening!"
Plus they're driving the plotline with Pete and Peggy towards a custody battle over their kid.
Wow, I'll admit to being a slightly envious of Don in this episode (10/12). There is a certain allure to the idea of just saying "fuck it" and hitting the road when your life becomes troublesome... but most people don't have the level of "I genuinely don't give a shit" needed to pull it off. I know I don't.
It was a very Don-like thing to do.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to Don... err... Dick now that he seems to have given up on his troublesome life back in NYC.
It was a very Don-like thing to do.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to Don... err... Dick now that he seems to have given up on his troublesome life back in NYC.
California, sure doesn't agree with Pete, does it.
Awwwww, I had to work so I missed it. Good thing AMC is rerunning it tonight. Is Don not planning to come back to New York even though he and Betty have two children? That would be a typical jerk behavior from Don. Run away. I wouldn't put it past him not to pay Betty child suppport in retaliation because she wouldn't take him back. He's really pushing the limits.
^ Bah! You should have watched it before spoiling yourself.
Don't worry... Don does send something back home to Betty.
It'll be interesting to see what she does next. I presume that she's about to get an inheritance of some kind when her father kicks it... but in the long run I'd like to see her pull her shit together and realize that she is able to be the parent that her children need without Don's 'help'.
Don't worry... Don does send something back home to Betty.
It'll be interesting to see what she does next. I presume that she's about to get an inheritance of some kind when her father kicks it... but in the long run I'd like to see her pull her shit together and realize that she is able to be the parent that her children need without Don's 'help'.
Don't worry... Don does send something to Betty.
What? Another woman's panties? I wouldn't put anything past that douchebag at this point.
I'll be waiting for 11:30 tonight so I can catch up. Betty's been raised to be the perfect, obedient "good wife and hostess." It's a mindset that was pretty damned hard to shake when you're raised to be dependent. She wasn't Betty Draper; she was Mrs. Don Draper. Being your husband's wife was your identity, especially if he was a professional man. To have your husband leave was literally to rip your identity apart. I once asked my mother why she didn't tell my dad to bugger off when they were first married if he pissed her off so much (they were married in 1962.) She said, "You didn't do that. The message, until women's lib, was that it was the woman's job to make the marriage work." Young girls got that message from school, from their parents, from church, and from popular culture. Considering how easily my mother tells my father to chill out these days, it's such a shocker to think that she ever behaved that way. For someone with a prim, east coast, Bryn Mawr upbringing like Betty it would be even worse. Divorced women were looked down on. They couldn't even get credit in their own names if they weren't provided for amply with alimony and child support. Divorced women could not get credit, period.
I wonder who he is going to go meet.
That could be true. He could have also met someone in that gap of time between season 1 and 2.
Well that was a refreshing change of pace. At least something really happened this episode, tho if Don runs off with the Eurotrash weirdos, they really can't keep the show focused on the ad agency so no doubt he'll head home eventually.
The California scenes were really gorgeously done. Makes me wish this show would get out of NYC more often. I think part of the problem is that I'm bored seeing the same sets over and over.
The California scenes were really gorgeously done. Makes me wish this show would get out of NYC more often. I think part of the problem is that I'm bored seeing the same sets over and over.
Okay, finally watched. What was that, exactly? Don just drops everything, leaves Pete in the lurch with the business contacts on a whim and goes off with whom exactly? This weird jet setting European/American family who are so captivated with him at a glance that they invite a stranger into their home and daddy says, "Cool, you took my bed? That's okay, pumpkin. You had dinner with him first." 
What the hell? Am I missing something? Is John Hamm that captivating? I'm not seeing it. Don's got zero personality except for brooding and douchebaggery. Does every woman on the planet fall into his bed? He's James Bond? Don isn't a whore child; he's a whore. I can think of men who are more physically attractive than Hamm.
In other notes, Peggy looked adorable times ten. The European homosexual half of the new design pair outing himself like that took guts. One wonders if he would have done it were he an American like Sal. I suspect not. Ken sure reacted like a macho pig. I love how he interjected without context to the newly returned Pete, "Turner's a homo." Or whatever the hell his name is. That was funny.
Speaking of Don, he must be going to see the lady from the car salesman flashback. Process of elimination. Everyone else who knows he's Dick Whitman is dead. Who else would he introduce himself to as Dick Whitman? He could introduce himself to everybody as a dick, but not as Dick Whitman. I guess he doesn't care if he loses his job and doesn't give a damn if he can't support his kids. That's our Don. Damn, Rachel dodged a bullet. Did he have the audacity to send Betty one of those crystal glasses he was looking at or did he ship his clothes home from the hotel? If he's telling her on the phone in the preview that she made him run off, I'll lose what microscopic smidgeon of respect I have left for him. What a cowardly douchebag he is.
Oh, Roger's an idiot. I hope Mona takes him for more than half and that Duck succeeds in his takeover attempt. Roger and Don deserve one another.
What the hell? Am I missing something? Is John Hamm that captivating? I'm not seeing it. Don's got zero personality except for brooding and douchebaggery. Does every woman on the planet fall into his bed? He's James Bond? Don isn't a whore child; he's a whore. I can think of men who are more physically attractive than Hamm. In other notes, Peggy looked adorable times ten. The European homosexual half of the new design pair outing himself like that took guts. One wonders if he would have done it were he an American like Sal. I suspect not. Ken sure reacted like a macho pig. I love how he interjected without context to the newly returned Pete, "Turner's a homo." Or whatever the hell his name is. That was funny.
Speaking of Don, he must be going to see the lady from the car salesman flashback. Process of elimination. Everyone else who knows he's Dick Whitman is dead. Who else would he introduce himself to as Dick Whitman? He could introduce himself to everybody as a dick, but not as Dick Whitman. I guess he doesn't care if he loses his job and doesn't give a damn if he can't support his kids. That's our Don. Damn, Rachel dodged a bullet. Did he have the audacity to send Betty one of those crystal glasses he was looking at or did he ship his clothes home from the hotel? If he's telling her on the phone in the preview that she made him run off, I'll lose what microscopic smidgeon of respect I have left for him. What a cowardly douchebag he is.
Oh, Roger's an idiot. I hope Mona takes him for more than half and that Duck succeeds in his takeover attempt. Roger and Don deserve one another.
