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I was suprised to see Mr Scheffield from The Nanny meeting with Duck. I kinda like Duck, he doesn't really fit it at Sterling Cooper very well either. I hope he's successful with the takeover. That leaving his dog thing was just reprehensible though and a bastard thing to do, there should be some kind of Karma for that. And you're right, Don is a very boring person all style and no substance. But really, none of the characters are glowing examples of humanity, well except for maybe Harry, but he has his problems as well.
 
That was different. Not sure what to make of our Don Draper at this point. For all his multiple faults, and he has a ton, he was always able to keep the focus on his job. Bailing out on Pete to go to Palm Springs was completely out of character, and signs of something more drastic like dropping out of life again, or perhaps, dropping back into his life as Dick Whitman. I can't see him floating around with the Euro knock abouts for too much longer. They seem a bit too off kilter and pleased with themselves to fit into Draper's comfort zone.

Back in the office the scene with Kurt announcing he was "homosexual" would have been absolutely hilarious if not for the distress and discomfort it created for Salvatore.

"I'm a homosexual."
"I don't think that means what you think it does."


Duck has suddenly become central with his scheming and, at least for now, his back to boozing ways. And he certainly could usher in some major changes at Sterling. Additionally, since we never saw what damage his alcoholism created (I assume it crushed his marriage) it will be interesting to see how that plays out; although it can't get much worse than a character peeing himself in the office.
 
What the hell? Am I missing something?
Don is so wound up, something has got to crack. What kind of guy hangs around the pool wearing a suit and tie and insisting that his colleague not even think about swimming? Good Lord! I've been waiting for this for a long time now, and it was a less extreme crack-up than I expected. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar hits Betty soon...and Peg...and Pete...and Sal the closet-case...all these characters are in the same situation.

Don's crack-up looks like it's going to be slow and non-violent, but I expect more dramatic things from some of the others (my money's on Pete to blow up spectacularly).

Don's got zero personality except for brooding and douchebaggery.
He's so repressed that it's unclear what his personality is at this point. The dramatic tension is us waiting for him to crack open wide enough that we finally see who the frak he is. And in that regard, he's not all that much different than the other major characters. Well, except for Joan and Roger Sterling, who seem to be more their own persons and suffer less from repression, and Paul Kinsey, who is going to become self-actualized by his experiences with the civil rights movement, no doubt. When he comes home, I expect to see a changed man.
 
I've been waiting for this for a long time now, and it was a less extreme crack-up than I expected. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar hits Betty soon...and Peg...and Pete...and Sal the closet-case...all these characters are in the same situation.

I was almost expecting the show to go all the way with the MILF/pedophile storyline...
 
Mad Men renewed for third season. But without Weiner?

But the question of who will be at the helm of the show next season is still unanswered, as the drama continues behind the scenes in negotiations between "Mad Men" producer Lionsgate and series creator-exec producer Matthew Weiner.
That would be a very bad thing. This show more than any other I can think of succeeds because of the sum of its parts, not just because of one element being outstanding, the stories, actors, etc. You have to have the whole package or it will fall apart. I can easily see this show becoming a sad parody of itself in the hands of people trying to re-create what Weiner has done.
 
I just thought I'd post a heads up for Brits, Amazon.co.uk are selling the first season for £12.97 and BBC Four are repeating it starting on the 25th at 11:30.
 
Good God, is AMC not willing to pony up for Matt Weiner? There would be no Mad Men were it not for him. You pay for talent. I agree that Don is headed for a crack up. Probably Pete, too, but I see Pete coming out better on the other side for it than Don. Pete would be better off without his family.

Don's in major "run and panic" mode, even if it means abandoning his children. I suspect that at some point down the road Don will realize that he made the worst mistake of his life and try to get Betty back, but she'll be financially independent by then because of her father's inheritance. Once Betty really starts to believe that she doesn't need Don for financial security or for her identity Donnie boy is going to be truly all alone, and the punch line is that he'll realize he wasn't all alone before but that he was too stupid to realize it. Betty obviously married Don, who had "no people," over the objections of her father. She loved him. She probably would have loved him had he told her the truth of his origins. A young girl and a self made, handsome man on the way up. It's catnip. The princess bride syndrome. However, now that Don's fucked it up Betty's realized that he's a coward--just like Rachel realized he's a coward. Rachel realized that eventually Don would have cheated on her and run away from her, too, just like he's doing to Betty. She didn't want to be Betty. Rachel didn't "settle" on Tilden. She would have settled for Don.
 
Help me out here, I'm three episodes in. I'm not into it. This show makes me feel miserable. It's the most serious thing I've ever seen, I'm just wondering if I should keep going? Does it change in tone or theme, or is this it more or less? I was hoping it would focus on the world of advertising in the 1960s, but it's mostly about who gets to pound Peggy.
 
Help me out here, I'm three episodes in. I'm not into it. This show makes me feel miserable. It's the most serious thing I've ever seen, I'm just wondering if I should keep going? Does it change in tone or theme, or is this it more or less? I was hoping it would focus on the world of advertising in the 1960s, but it's mostly about who gets to pound Peggy.
I didn't even manage to get through the first episode, first time round. I just didn't like anything about it. I'm gonna give it another go when the repeats air, just in case it was just the mood I was in that day or something.
 
Keep going. It really starts picking up in episode 5 of season one. You get some insight into why Pete is the way he is in episode 4. Definitely keep going. It picks up. I promise.
 
This weird jet setting European/American family who are so captivated with him at a glance that they invite a stranger into their home and daddy says, "Cool, you took my bed? That's okay, pumpkin. You had dinner with him first." :wtf: What the hell? Am I missing something?
I actually thought that scene was pretty cool. The Euro jet-set foks come off as a bit creepy and sinister, like they might harvest Don's kidney's while he's drugged, but at the same time, I like their care-free hedonistic lifestyle. It's a refreshing to see a world that's not phony or repressed for a change. This was my favorite episode of the series.

Also, as I was watching, I knew that I recognized Joy, but I didn't know where from. Then I did some digging and found out that it was Laura Ramsey. She's older and has darker hair. I also found out that someone I knew years ago was in this episode. Her name is Justine Eyre. It's nice to see that she's doing well.

I've been waiting for this for a long time now, and it was a less extreme crack-up than I expected. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar hits Betty soon...and Peg...and Pete...and Sal the closet-case...all these characters are in the same situation.

I was almost expecting the show to go all the way with the MILF/pedophile storyline...
I was expecting that too.
 
Keep going. It really starts picking up in episode 5 of season one. You get some insight into why Pete is the way he is in episode 4. Definitely keep going. It picks up. I promise.

Cheers. i will watch two more and see what happens. :techman:
 
Help me out here, I'm three episodes in. I'm not into it. This show makes me feel miserable. It's the most serious thing I've ever seen, I'm just wondering if I should keep going? Does it change in tone or theme, or is this it more or less? I was hoping it would focus on the world of advertising in the 1960s, but it's mostly about who gets to pound Peggy.

It's a show about characters who are locked in cages of their own making. It might be hard to sympathize because if they lived today, they wouldn't be trapped. You have to put yourself into the mindset of the early 60s to understand where they are coming from.

My take on it was S1 got that Emmy because it managed to be entertaining while being arty and profound whereas S2 is more of a strain on my patience. So if you aren't finding it entertaining now, well...I dunno.
 
This weird jet setting European/American family who are so captivated with him at a glance that they invite a stranger into their home and daddy says, "Cool, you took my bed? That's okay, pumpkin. You had dinner with him first." :wtf: What the hell? Am I missing something?
I actually thought that scene was pretty cool. The Euro jet-set foks come off as a bit creepy and sinister, like they might harvest Don's kidney's while he's drugged, but at the same time, I like their care-free hedonistic lifestyle. It's a refreshing to see a world that's not phony or repressed for a change. This was my favorite episode of the series.

I had assumed that these guys are meant to be proto-hippies... and that Don would be attracted to that lifestyle and the freedom that comes with it. Combine that with Don's obvious reaction to the illustrations of Nuclear devestation and you've got a guy who is on his way to becoming a full-blown hippie by the end of the sixties. Which would be a great way to follow the development of that movement on the show. I'd love to see Do...sorry... Dick as a bearded/longhaired/potsmoking/peace-loving Woodstock participant by the end of the series.

Also, it would contrast nicely with his stuffy portrayal in season one (when he was dating that young girl).
 
Help me out here, I'm three episodes in. I'm not into it. This show makes me feel miserable. It's the most serious thing I've ever seen, I'm just wondering if I should keep going? Does it change in tone or theme, or is this it more or less? I was hoping it would focus on the world of advertising in the 1960s, but it's mostly about who gets to pound Peggy.

It's a very good show in my estimation. But to be clear, it has no intention at any point in making you feel good. The ratio of scenes which cause pure discomfort to those of levity is about 20 to 1. By season's end, at the rate things are going, it will be 50 to 1. If that's the kind of thing which turns you off, I can't recommend it.
 
Well that was certainly better than last week. Much, MUCH better.

First things first, Joan's fiancé needs to die. I'll broach no compromise on that subject. The idiot recapper at TWOP called it "borderline rape" until he started to read all the disbelief and anger in the talkback section, then that description mysteriously disappeared from his recaplet. :shifty: Yeah, it's only borderline rape if they've had consensual sex before. Jerk.

Nice to see that Dick Whitman was a human being at one time, but he's still in no hurry to get back to his job or his children, is he? By the time he decides he can go back and live his life, he'll probably be shocked that Betty has decided she can do without him. What? I just took a little vacation, babe. I'd have beaten the crap out of you for doing the same thing but let's not complicate the issue.

Betty is sooo pregnant. I knew she would be. I hope they have the balls to do an abortion storyline. I wouldn't want Don's chlid either. I was rather amazed to see one woman who didn't trip over him and fall into his bed. The first Mrs. Draper was kinder than he deserved. Nice to see Betty growing up and telling Sally the truth. Betty's learning that she can cope without Don. Woo hoo, did she ever set up Sara Beth, or what? :lol: She was obviously disgusted that Sara Beth was "bored and unfulfilled" by her husband whom she admitted treated her like a queen, so Betty set her up to commit adultery so Betty could say the things to her she couldn't say to Don. She was right. Nobody made Sarah Beth do anything. Evil woman, but I liked it. :evil:

Peggy was rocking the place. I love that woman, but she's headng for a fall. She'll have to deal with the memories of her child sooner or later. Pete telling his father-in-law to fuck off with his contract was a nice change of pace, but he needs to be honest with Trudy and let her go. I'd have been pissed off too if my spouse sicced daddy on me, but there's nothing wrong with Trudy wanting a child. Pete and Trudy shouldn't be married, and that's all.

Loved Alice Cooper. She was rocking the house, wasn't she? You have children to take care of. I just have one. Really? Hee hee hee hee hee....so true, so appropriate for old Roger. :devil: Oh Roger. I have a feeling sweet Jane won't be everything you want. Sooner or later, she'll either leave you because all your money's going to alimony or she'll want babies of her own, something Roger's never considered I'm sure.

Did I mention Joan's fiancé needs to die? :scream:
 
I'm really losing whatever sympathy I had for Betty. :p She's a chilly, judgmental bitch and Don's right, she does act like a child. Don should stay in Cali and get a job in Hollywood. He won't be a hippie, that's too squalid for his tastes. He'll be a Las Vegas hipster/surfer type.

Pete is beginning his Massive Meltdown. Good. :devil:

Kudos to Jon Hamm - the scenes from a decade or so earlier really convinced me he was a decade younger, and it's not just the makeup, hair and costumes.

Next week's the season finale? It's high time Pete finds out about his kid.
 
Betty and Don are definitely better off without one another. I'm hoping Don never goes home and Betty learns to get along without him. I guess they could both grow up and work things out... but that would be nearly as interesting.

Hopefully, we'll get some more details on Mississippi next week. I was hoping for more than "Hey, I'm back."

Oh... and, yeah, Joan's fiance definitely needs to get what he deserves. What a bastard. The really sad part of that scene was that Joan would rather take it than risk the embarrassment of people hearing her struggle. Poor Joan.
 
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