New starships from TOS remastered Season 1

[Timo]

He didn't have to be; as stated in dialogue, it was just Finney's turn on the duty roster.

What I mean is, no Lieutenant Commander should ever have been on that roster unless the task truly required a senior officer. Kirk isn't supposed to do his weekly shift at Phaser Control or Turbolift Maintenance, either.

The ion pod is mysterious in several ways:

1) What does it do? (Monitor ion storms for research purposes, supposedly. Kirk seemed to deliberately steer into that storm with the purpose of operating the pod in there.)

2) Why is it situated so that an ion storm threatens it? (Supposedly because exposure facilitates the measurements.)

3) Why is the response to that threat a jettisoning maneuver, rather than retraction or closing of shutters? (No idea there.)

4) Why is 1) a man-tended operation? (Might be related to the above. Perhaps the pod is extensively separated from the rest of the ship, and doesn't even enjoy computer connections.)

5) Why does the man need to be an officer, let alone a high-ranking one? (Again, might be related to above.)

Perhaps we could understand the role of the pod better if we understood ion storms better. Why does Kirk deliberately steer into one, and hang in there until his ship is on the verge of falling apart?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[mada101]

Kind of a shame that they didn't show us any drydocks in orbit above Starbase 11. I would have thought it logical that such an important port would have them, rather than forcing the repair crews to work on the ships 'freehand'.

 

[cooleddie74]

VERY sweet effects shots from "Court Martial." Shame we won't get to see it for a while longer since its further down the schedule of new Remastered episodes.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

FalTorPan said:

gaghyogi49 said:

Is there a reason why the "1384" and "1837" markings are white in this shot? I thought they were black.

They're supposed to be. My guess is that when they applied the "ion damage texture" to the CGI model it somehow screwed up the "secondary hull number texture".

 

[Stag]

Looks like the shuttle is being used for the repair operation. It appears the two spacesuited figures are working on the ion pod and the shuttle is near by as there "work bee".

Just a thought.

 

[cooleddie74]

I can't be the only fan who's jazzed to see so many "new" shuttlecraft with unusual, non-Enterprise related registry numbers. And shots like this are just spectacular. Maybe not big-screen ILM quality or texture, but for a forty-year old TV show with a limited CGI remastering budget these shots kick ass.

 

[cbspock]

I really liked the shot of the Enterprise in Return of the Archons, where the camera goes past the Enterprise, and you can see the town they beam down to from orbit.

 

[erastus25]

cooleddie74 said:

I can't be the only fan who's jazzed to see so many "new" shuttlecraft with unusual, non-Enterprise related registry numbers. And shots like this are just spectacular. Maybe not big-screen ILM quality or texture, but for a forty-year old TV show with a limited CGI remastering budget these shots kick ass.

My guess is that it is meant to say "SB11 1201-1". As in Star Base 11, 1201???, shuttle 1.

 

[jimbo1973]

Those are some cool shots!

 

[gaghyogi49]

The images have been added to the Starship Database at Ex Astris Scientia.
Mike Okuda has kindly provided us with some background information about the various ships:

*The Constitution class vessel in "Court Martial" is indeed the USS Intrepid (NCC-1631).

*The Antares-type vessel is the Yorkshire, NCC-330. "We're using the red script names (similar to the original shuttles) on the sides of these ships, with no "USS" prefix, so it's ambiguous as to whether these are Starfleet or merely of Federation registry."

*"The Denevan ship is identical to Mudd's ship (although presumably smaller)."

*The thing replaced by the two men in EV suits is indeed the ion pod.

Again, thank you very much Mike, for sharing this info!

Here's a cool shot from "Dagger of the mind". Love the rings!

http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/gaghyogi49/TOS%20remastered%20Season%201/TantalusV.jpg

Jörg

 

[Ronald Held]

Thanks for relaying that information from Mike.

 

[mada101]

NCC-1631? I see that the Okudas persist in their error...

 

[cooleddie74]

Meh. Close enough. Considering that the USS Yamato in TNG started out with a completely inconsistent 24th century registry number("NCC-something or other with just four low number digits-E"?)and then had it change shortly thereafter with no on-screen explanation this is minor and most people will never notice.

 

[mada101]

^ True, but the registry appears in 'Court Martial' in the Commodore's office on a wall chart as 'NCC-1831'. Greg Jein, who originally matched all those numbers up to the ship names, misread it as '1631', and so the Okudas used that in the Encyclopedia.

 

[number6]

^^Anyone have a screengrab??

 

[Timo]

I've never seen one sharp enough to tell whether that's an 8 or a 6 on the second-highest ship.

However, there is no good reason to think that the second-highest ship would be the Intrepid. Stone never glances at that part of the chart when speaking of the Intrepid; moreover, he says he bumped the Intrepid down to allow the Enterprise to be repaired first, but that would make zero sense if the Intrepid were the second-highest ship - because that ship is no longer in the repair queue! It has been 100% completed already.

Granted, Stone might have slapped a "100% complete" label on the still limping and leaking Intrepid for bureaucratic reasons to get the Enterprise into that slot. But it's not particularly logical, and not a desirable solution in any case.

The other Jein/Okuda interpretations of that chart I might grudgingly accept, but Intrepid should definitely be one of the ships lower down - perhaps the one with the shortest "% complete" bar, so that bumping her would be the logical thing to do.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[aridas sofia]

I'll accept the Jein/Okuda numbers...

As part of an ongoing Starfleet program of disinformation intended to confound and confuse the intelligence assets of potential Threat forces.

 

[Mallory]

aridas sofia said:
As part of an ongoing Starfleet program of disinformation intended to confound and confuse the intelligence assets of potential Threat forces.

I read something very similar to that at one time. I even think I still have the document around somewhere.

 

[cooleddie74]

Can anyone make out the name on the Starbase 11 repair shuttle flying past the Enterprise in that one shot?

 

[gaghyogi49]

The shuttle features the same registry as the Picasso , seen up close in "The Menagerie I" so this is the second appearance of that shuttlecraft.

Jörg