New Simon Pegg Interview (Beware: Spoilers Ahead!)
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Utter nonsense. One of the Pegg interviews was from the set.
Pegg's interview was done during the filming of "Beyond." The Nerdist only published it yesterday.
Hell of a time to publish it. Unfortunate coincidence of course.
Both Pegg and Lin have expressed displeasure at the trailer. If they've not been told to say that by their employer, there's likely to be blowback.
Either way, I don't see how the writer and director of a ballpark $200m movie expressing these opinions in public, two days after the first trailer has been released to less than full enthusiasm, can be construed as being anything other than negative.
Hell of a time to publish it. Unfortunate coincidence of course.
Both Pegg and Lin have expressed displeasure at the trailer. If they've not been told to say that by their employer, there's likely to be blowback.
Either way, I don't see how the writer and director of a ballpark $200m movie expressing these opinions in public, two days after the first trailer has been released to less than full enthusiasm, can be construed as being anything other than negative.
I think we're going a bit overboard here. Although it's nice to hear you modify your claims that the trailer was "almost universally panned" to "less than full enthusiasm."
Hell of a time to publish it. Unfortunate coincidence of course.
Both Pegg and Lin have expressed displeasure at the trailer. If they've not been told to say that by their employer, there's likely to be blowback.
Either way, I don't see how the writer and director of a ballpark $200m movie expressing these opinions in public, two days after the first trailer has been released to less than full enthusiasm, can be construed as being anything other than negative.
I think we're going a bit overboard here. Although it's nice to hear you modify your claims that the trailer was "almost universally panned" to "less than full enthusiasm."
Don't you recognise a euphamism when you see one?
I think it's worthy of note that on the Star Wars premiere red carpet, when Pegg was asked about the trailer, he immediately appeared to start sucking on a lemon. That can be taken in various ways.
I admire your ability to condense so much nonsense into such a small package.
There's hyperbole and then there's flat-out pants on fire lying, and saying that the trailer has been "almost universally panned" falls into the latter category.
Was the unfinished film seven months away from release reviewed by precogs? Is Gene's vision, in fact, a psychic vision?
You're not required to like the films or the trailers, but it would be nice if you actually argued your points with some basis in reality, because otherwise it looks like you're just trying to get a rise out of people.
I admire your ability to condense so much nonsense into such a small package.
There's hyperbole and then there's flat-out pants on fire lying, and saying that the trailer has been "almost universally panned" falls into the latter category.
Was the unfinished film seven months away from release reviewed by precogs? Is Gene's vision, in fact, a psychic vision?
You're not required to like the films or the trailers, but it would be nice if you actually argued your points with some basis in reality, because otherwise it looks like you're just trying to get a rise out of people.
As said by other people on this board, all you have to do is type "Star Trek Beyond trailer" in to Google if you want to see the majority view, it's all there. I'm not going to wet nurse you.
As for the rest of you post along with your silly animated gif, it's pure trolling. Firstly, Abrams has nothing to do with this film, and secondly, I'm on record numerous times on this forum as saying that I liked his first Trek film. I think he's no more than a moderately talented film maker who has his problems with originality, but I don't hate him. Never have, and never said I have.
So I typed Star Trek Beyond Trailer into this Google you speak of, and the first result was a video on something called YouTube. I clicked on that, and right beneath the video itself, it gave these results:
Now I'm not one of them newfangled math professors or anything, but I'm pretty sure 47,939 is a higher number than 19,688, which is why calling it "almost universally panned" or saying the "majority view" is negative is such a mystery to me. Must be that new math.
But hey, maybe that's just YouTube commenters. What if we polled actual Trek fans?
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Nope, neither universally panned nor a negative majority there either. Strange.
Does anybody actually think JJ was "producing" this movie? His name is the the credits. I'm sure he has had some input. I'm sure he was on the set a time or two. But he has little real involvement in the film. His name is in the credits and appears FIRST in the trailer for marketing reasons.
JJ was putting all of his focus (and rightfully so) on Star Wars. I'm sure this is what Mr. Bear was referring to.
Also I don't take thumbs up and thumbs down on YouTube as evidence of much. Most of the talk I've seen hasn't been positive including from the director and the screenwriter. I'm a fan of both JJ movies and STID is maybe my second favorite Trek ever. I didn't like the trailer. It's not as terrible as say the last Dawn Of Justice trailer by any means but I haven't seen that many people (even on here) talking about how amaze balls it was.
JJ was putting all of his focus (and rightfully so) on Star Wars. I'm sure this is what Mr. Bear was referring to.
Also I don't take thumbs up and thumbs down on YouTube as evidence of much. Most of the talk I've seen hasn't been positive including from the director and the screenwriter. I'm a fan of both JJ movies and STID is maybe my second favorite Trek ever. I didn't like the trailer. It's not as terrible as say the last Dawn Of Justice trailer by any means but I haven't seen that many people (even on here) talking about how amaze balls it was.
It's a hell of a lot more evidence than "It's near universally disliked because I said so."
As to the rest of your post, make sure Admiral Bear tips you for so generously moving those goalposts for him.
It's kind of ridiculous to say J. J. has much input at all in the film. He's only a name to put in the credits and that's it. He definitely wasn't there on set while shooting like other producers.
You can't direct, co-write and produce a new Star Wars film, probably the most anticipated movie of all-time and is sure to break some sort of box office record, if not all of them, and go through a vigorous press and marketing process for it while also working on a new Star Trek film.
It's just not possible. He probably had a quick look at the script, gave impressions and any minor advice, and went back to Star Wars. And that's being generous.
You can't direct, co-write and produce a new Star Wars film, probably the most anticipated movie of all-time and is sure to break some sort of box office record, if not all of them, and go through a vigorous press and marketing process for it while also working on a new Star Trek film.
It's just not possible. He probably had a quick look at the script, gave impressions and any minor advice, and went back to Star Wars. And that's being generous.
He almost certainly heavily involved around the time Orci exited as director, though his involvement as filming actually started was undoubtedly a lot lower.
@ Shalashaska:
Here's what he said, and the only thing that was being debated.
At no point did I make any claims about him being there day to day micromanaging things on set.
Here's what he said, and the only thing that was being debated.
At no point did I make any claims about him being there day to day micromanaging things on set.
That depends on what level of "producer" JJ is. He certainly won't be the "Producer" who gets a p.g.a. mark next to his credit, but he'll almost certainly be an Executive Producer, which means something different. If you want me to school y'all on the difference let me know. 
He basically had virtually nothing to do with the film.
Gross, extreme, exaggerations.
The trailer isn't nearly as awful as people are proclaiming, but it's not the greatest either.
The reaction is "mixed" leaning more towards positive, but still very mixed.
There are always detractors, sometimes with good reason, other times not so much.
I do think there is a point to be made regarding expectations in this instance. IE what audiences in general would expect to see when it comes to a Star Trek trailer or Star Trek film for that matter. "Rock music over rapid fire cutting" isn't necessarily what most people think of when they think of Trek.
That might be exactly the point.
