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New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 2017

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Moderators, can you close my thread? It's all the same discussion here.

I'll post my 5 questions here into this thread. "Not Related" does leave some room for ambiguity. I'd personally be ok with a spin-off of the JJ-Verse that didn't deal with the Enterprise crew, like a USS Constitution/Exeter etc kind of series.

1. Who will be "The Powers That Be?"

Consensus answer is that it will be Kurtzman ALONE through his production company SECRET HIDEOUT.

Latest reports indicate that Robert Orci is not yet involved and that Bad Robot is not involved either. This would mean JJ Abrams and Producer Damon Lindelof are not involved (which makes perfect sense since they're focused on Star Wars).

Surely however the property is of high enough value that they will be overseen by executives at CBS. This is not going to be like Rick Berman being the czar of Star Trek for 20 years.

2. How will CBS Television (Or Digital Television) cooperate with Paramount? We know Paramount wants a billion dollar Avengers-like franchise. Paramount wants at least another film out of Chris Pine and Co. Now that there's a new series, how will these two corporate siblings behave when sharing the Star Trek pie?

Confusion on this point. Some reports say that the film and series will not be related, however Vox.com reports: "Kurtzman wrote the screenplays for Star Trek and Star Trek: Into Darkness, and the new series would presumably be set in the new timeline he established for those films."


That however, appears to be merely the opinion of Vox writer Matthew Yglesias who has written several opinion pieces about Star Trek and its future in television.


3. Which era of Star Trek will it be set in? Prime timeline, JJ-Timeline, Next Generation Era? Prequel? Thousands of years later? There's merits and drawbacks to each.

Pure speculation at this point. But fun speculation.


4. Per episode budget? It should have a high budget for effects like Agents of Shield, Daredevil and Supergirl. That puts it in the $3-4 million dollar range. These days a genre series lasts about 18-20 episodes per season. Would Star Trek work better over a long season or as a limited run serial with 12 episodes?

5. How far into multimedia will this series reach? It finally seems like CBS is actually doing something for the 50th Anniversary. A huge marketing campaign for the new show + the new film will put Star Trek back into the pop culture limelight. Will we see the expansive empire that JJ Abrams envisioned, but was disappointed to be denied when he signed on in 2008-- a vast, cohesive multimedia empire to include books, comics, animated series, video games, toys etc?


The answers will determine the fate of Star Trek for, well, the next generation.



Ideally though I'd like a story set in the TNG prime-verse. The thing was, Kurtzman had talked about string theory and how eventually the timeline will try to correct itself, and that's what I assumed would happen, that at some point the divergent JJ-verse would merge back into the prime universe. I swear he went in depth in an early interview after Star Trek 2009 premiered.

Still, Star Trek really would benefit from a Marvel Cinematic Universe approach where the TV show and movie were connected and it had a big overarching story.
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Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Even if CBS All Access bombs and they want to cancel the show, Reed Hastings over at Netflix will write them a check immediately to bring in new episodes to Netflix. It's been on his wish-list for a while.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm exited, I hope they at least try and bring back the old Star Trek production crew from the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era.

My heart wants this to be sent post dominion war, but I very much doubt that.

As for it being made by Alex Kurtzman I have mixed emotions. I liked the star trek movie but not into darkness, however he did co create Fringe which is one of my favourite shows, so I'll give him a chance.

Edit: oh and I hope this is not sold to channel 9 in Australia as they have a history of airing ST at midnight.
 
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Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

1. Kurtzman and CBS already have a good relationship, with other shows he produces for them. His connection to the JJ films is like icing on the cake. It makes sense why CBS went with him to run this.

2. Streaming is the way we will be getting our TV from here on out. The Cable business model of packaging up everything is dying. Why pay 80 bucks a month for 250 digital channels when you only watch maybe 10... at most... Even for me, I can count on 1 hand the channels i watch.... CBS, CW, AMC, ABC, FOX..... Would I pay 6 bucks a month for live+Streaming for each of those? Yes I would. At 30 bucks a month, that's alot better than Cable TV these days...

3. There is a reason why JJ created a new timeline. You can only go so far in the future before technology solves too many of your problems. The Technology in TOS was an accessory, in TNG it became a solution, and with that, it became harder for writers to write good drama. 250 or so years out, I think is sufficient.... so that means, you either play in the playground of the Prime Timeline, which for all intents and purposes is all fleshed out, and you don't want to frustrate writers by telling them they can't bump against existing continuity... So I suspect that it will take place in the Abrams universe, or a new unexplored timeline... setting up a multiverse.....
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I am expecting the series to be in the Abrams movie universe. But I would love love love for it to go back to the prime universe, post voyager, with more modern sets and good writing.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Even if CBS All Access bombs and they want to cancel the show, Reed Hastings over at Netflix will write them a check immediately to bring in new episodes to Netflix. It's been on his wish-list for a while.
Good to know - now hopefully some stupid internal politics thing doesn't keep this from happening. (Assuming CBSAA bombs - which, frankly, I am.)
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I like this news. It's exciting!

I really hope it's a post-TNG/DS9/VOY universe, but I'll settle with fresh and entertaining, whatever they give us.

Not sure what will happen internationally with this being on CBS All Access - I've never even heard of that one. If I end up having to subscribe for this new series, it would have to have other content that was worth watching. I already have Netflix and Now TV at the moment, but I tend to lose Now TV for a few months during the dry well that is summer TV. I could probably go for another subscription as I imagine they're the type you can cancel and pick up at any time.

Too early for a countdown thread?
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I like this news. It's exciting!

I really hope it's a post-TNG/DS9/VOY universe, but I'll settle with fresh and entertaining, whatever they give us.

Not sure what will happen internationally with this being on CBS All Access - I've never even heard of that one. If I end up having to subscribe for this new series, it would have to have other content that was worth watching. I already have Netflix and Now TV at the moment, but I tend to lose Now TV for a few months during the dry well that is summer TV. I could probably go for another subscription as I imagine they're the type you can cancel and pick up at any time.

Too early for a countdown thread?

Networks outside of the US will be able to pick up the show for local viewing in their areas....
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

If CBS were to release all the episodes at once, I'd probably sign up, watch them, and then cancel my sub til the next season? lol

And someone find John Eaves. We need new ships designs stat!
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm speechless. That caught me completely off guard! Exciting! :biggrin:
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

If CBS were to release all the episodes at once, I'd probably sign up, watch them, and then cancel my sub til the next season? lol

And someone find John Eaves. We need new ships designs stat!

I watch BBT, Criminal Minds, Supergirl, all a week after premier... With Star Trek being exclusive, it's going to behoove me to go ahead and just pay the 6 bucks a month...
 
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I've heard a lot of people say it had better be in the Prime Universe. I agree.

All I can say is that people had better start making an F load of noise NOW. If you wait until the details are announced, it's too late.

It may not even be possible now because I guarantee you they are thinking of the movie universe. It's not even a question in *their* minds because they've worked to create the movie universe.

But, if you make a lot of noise now, maybe, just maybe it can be set in the Prime Universe. Interestingly they didn't say, which speaks volumes.

Mr Awe
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Star Trek lives!!!

Does it get much better? 50th anniversary....new movie, new tv series
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I'm speechless. That caught me completely off guard! Exciting! :biggrin:

It's been so longwith so many rumors, I'd kind of given up on not being surprised, to a state where I was not expecting it at this particular time. However, I did predict this would happen after the 3rd movie and after the 50th anniversary.;)
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I've heard a lot of people say it had better be in the Prime Universe. I agree.

All I can say is that people had better start making an F load of noise NOW. If you wait until the details are announced, it's too late.

It may not even be possible now because I guarantee you they are thinking of the movie universe. It's not even a question in *their* minds because they've worked to create the movie universe.

But, if you make a lot of noise now, maybe, just maybe it can be set in the Prime Universe. Interestingly they didn't say, which speaks volumes.

Mr Awe
LOL, scream all you want. They're going to make what they think will work. Not what a few fans cry about.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Is it true that CBS basically has a policy of ignoring the Abramsverse? I recall something about them considering Romulus & old Spock to be not blown up/missing in the prime universe. It makes sense, since there is no benefit to having the Romulans essentially removed from the universe outside of the reboot movies.

I'm hoping for post TNG era with transwarp, personally.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Yeah while I can't blame the company for wanting to get income from intellectual property it owns, I don't necessarily have to appreciate them showing the first episode, only to then offer the rest of the season only online. Its like, thanks for the tease there; but from what I've heard CBS is notorious for ending shows prematurely.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Is it true that CBS basically has a policy of ignoring the Abramsverse? I recall something about them considering Romulus & old Spock to be not blown up/missing in the prime universe. It makes sense, since there is no benefit to having the Romulans essentially removed from the universe outside of the reboot movies.

I'm hoping for post TNG era with transwarp, personally.

Nope. Star Trek Online is CBS and it acknowledges the destruction of Romulus. Everything else in the rebooted universe are ignored, but the final events leading up to the split are included.
 
Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

I've heard a lot of people say it had better be in the Prime Universe. I agree.

All I can say is that people had better start making an F load of noise NOW. If you wait until the details are announced, it's too late.

It may not even be possible now because I guarantee you they are thinking of the movie universe. It's not even a question in *their* minds because they've worked to create the movie universe.

But, if you make a lot of noise now, maybe, just maybe it can be set in the Prime Universe. Interestingly they didn't say, which speaks volumes.

Mr Awe
LOL, scream all you want. They're going to make what they think will work. Not what a few fans cry about.

Who's screaming or crying? :confused:

Mr Awe
 
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