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Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

I am not too worried about this. As much as I enjoy the novels, I would sacrifice the literary continuity if it means we get more Trek on tv.

Anyhoo, it is not as if the novels have been consistent within their own continuity. Indistinguishable from Magic was part of the continuity when it came out, then it wasn't, then it sort of was. And The Good That Men Do suggested Nog and Jake were involved in the takedown of Section 31 in the early 25th century, but Control suggests otherwise.
 
I am not too worried about this. As much as I enjoy the novels, I would sacrifice the literary continuity if it means we get more Trek on tv.

Anyhoo, it is not as if the novels have been consistent within their own continuity. Indistinguishable from Magic was part of the continuity when it came out, then it wasn't, then it sort of was. And The Good That Men Do suggested Nog and Jake were involved in the takedown of Section 31 in the early 25th century, but Control suggests otherwise.
Section 31 isn’t dead yet. Sure some of the secrets are out but Control wasn’t defeated. The Good that Men do can still happen.
 
Well, sort-of. Most of VAN is unaffected by DIS so far, but IIRC DIS Season One seemed to contradict VAN's reference to Chancellor Sturka having been in power on Qo'noS since 2255. Obviously you can mentally delete one line like that and assume that eventually L'Rell leaves office by the time of VAN, but you do have to squint a little bit.
Fair enough, but considering Discovery's time jump I guess there won't be anything else now?
 
I think people are confused about the Story Group. The members are not just random people at Lucasfilm - they are the proverbial "suits". They are Lucasfilm executives - no one is telling them to take a hike. Half of the Story Group is also part of the Intellectual Property Development Group, the informal brain trust at Lucasfilm (https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Intellectual_Property_Development_Group). They aren't Richard Arnold.
I don't think doubters are confused about Story Group at all. You know, this is the same corporation that pretty much trashed Lucas' original outlines and made it clear once he signed over the rights to Disney that any illusions he had about what the ST would be no longer mattered? George Lucas himself. The man without whom Star Wars would not exist.

So... if they can do that to him....

Anyway as far as Trek, Star Trek Online: Needs of the Many has the multiple temporal realities, and the "Litverse" will just have to go that way. That may be what the writers mean when they say they have it under control.
 
Countdown, though, is a bit of a shock, I admit, since the cover of that comic book outright said "Official prequel" to the 2009 movie, or something like that. This also means we now have absolutely no insight other than the mind meld scene on what really went on behind the scenes (Federation involvement, Klingon reaction) etc. to Romulus' destruction. We now have no idea why Nero's mining crew all have tattoos and are bald.
Yes it was billed as the 'official' movie prequel. really enjoyed CD at the time and thought it would've made a great 'quick' prequel movie for summer 2011.. building on the massive success of ST09 and starring Bana, Nimoy, Stewart, Spiner etc directed by Frakes

maybe it'l turn out ST:P isn't too contradictory and CD can still fit in somehow?.idk we'll know soon enough
 
that's to be expected on a board dedicated to them - this was about wider cultural cache - they have none.

Then again, I confess I have no idea who "Zayne Carrick" or "Revan" or "Kyle Katarn" are either, so I'm not sure they're all that well-known to the average person either, or even those of us who have mostly just seen the STAR WARS movies. I don't think any book-only character has that much "wider cultural cache," regardless of what franchise you're talking about.
 
Then again, I confess I have no idea who "Zayne Carrick" or "Revan" or "Kyle Katarn" are either, so I'm not sure they're all that well-known to the average person either, or even those of us who have mostly just seen the STAR WARS movies. I don't think any book-only character has that much "wider cultural cache," regardless of what franchise you're talking about.

Well I know who Kyle Katarn is even though I've never played any his games or read any of his books - which makes me think - this is likely the wrong lens - video game characters are more likely to be known that novel characters...
 
Well I know who Kyle Katarn is even though I've never played any his games or read any of his books - which makes me think - this is likely the wrong lens - video game characters are more likely to be known that novel characters...

I admit, I geek out anytime I see a Darth Nihilus cosplay. It's a super cool costume, and I have always wondered if the design was meant to be Faction Paradox inspired. I know, I know, really unlikely.
 
I confess I did pick up a few Doctor Aphra graphic novels at the library after reading a rave review of them somewhere. They were fun.

(Unfortunately, our library didn't have a complete set so it was a bit confusing. They had Volume I and 4, but not 2 or 3, or something like that.)
 
Then again, I confess I have no idea who "Zayne Carrick" or "Revan" or "Kyle Katarn" are either, so I'm not sure they're all that well-known to the average person either, or even those of us who have mostly just seen the STAR WARS movies. I don't think any book-only character has that much "wider cultural cache," regardless of what franchise you're talking about.
For what it's worth, did anyone know who ant man or guardians of the galaxy were before their films?

As for zayne carrick, hes the reason many of us are looking forward to john Jackson millers new trek novel, as we fell in love with his work through that character
 
For what it's worth, did anyone know who ant man or guardians of the galaxy were before their films?

"I did, I did!" he says, enthusiastically raising his hand. :)

In fact, I'm old enough to remember when the Guardians consisted of Vance Astro, Charlie-27, Martinex, and Yondu, and comic books were something you bought at 7-Eleven for only twelve cents apiece, not the stuff of major motion pictures.

And I think I first encountered Hank Pym back in 1968, when he and Captain America, Hawkeye, and the Black Panther borrowed Dr. Doom's time machine to try to save Bucky from dying in World War II. (We all know how well that worked.). Mind you, that was back when Hank Pym was Ant-Man, long before they introduced Scott Lang.

Footnote: I actually sold my old copy of Starlord's first appearance last year. Paid for some much-needed home repairs. :)
 
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Then again, I confess I have no idea who "Zayne Carrick" or "Revan" or "Kyle Katarn" are either, so I'm not sure they're all that well-known to the average person either, or even those of us who have mostly just seen the STAR WARS movies. I don't think any book-only character has that much "wider cultural cache," regardless of what franchise you're talking about.
Revan was considered to appear in The Clone Wars TV series, and in the run-up to The Force Awakens, I saw many a social media comment comparing Kylo Ren's hood + mask design to Revan's.
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I don't think doubters are confused about Story Group at all. You know, this is the same corporation that pretty much trashed Lucas' original outlines and made it clear once he signed over the rights to Disney that any illusions he had about what the ST would be no longer mattered? George Lucas himself. The man without whom Star Wars would not exist.

So... if they can do that to him....
Except they didn't. Kathleen Kennedy is his hand-picked successor and a friend for more than forty years. She didn't say "F- you, George!" and drop-kick him out the door. And the basis of the sequel trilogy came from Lucas's outlines - Han and Leia's son falling to the dark side, a young woman discovering the Force, Luke in self-imposed exile. Unless you mean the part about exploring the microscopic nature of the Force and the midichlorians. They got rid of that part for good reason.
 
Except they didn't. Kathleen Kennedy is his hand-picked successor and a friend for more than forty years. She didn't say "F- you, George!" and drop-kick him out the door. And the basis of the sequel trilogy came from Lucas's outlines - Han and Leia's son falling to the dark side, a young woman discovering the Force, Luke in self-imposed exile. Unless you mean the part about exploring the microscopic nature of the Force and the midichlorians. They got rid of that part for good reason.
Ok, I know George was diplomatic later on but he was not kind about 7. He was not happy about a lot of the choices made. They used some parts of his outline but 7 was not at all something he liked, once you see past Ms. Kennedy's spin. Don't know about 8.

He was so angry he even made an offensive "slavers" comment that he later rightfully retracted, but the fact that even happened shows a lot about his state of mind from what was done to his outlines.
 
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