New image and Total Film Magazine collector covers

[Praetor]

Re: New images

From a technical standpoint, I have to agree the screen is crap. If the whole damn bridge is reflected in the main viewer, it's made useless. Seriously, we've got anti-reflective viewers and screens today (I'm using one), so to have this screen on the new Enterprise is impossible to justify.

I don't know, somehow it makes it seem more realistic to me. I guess without the reflections it would just be another special effect projected on a green screen.

Realism aside, if they've mastered warping space and travelling interstellar distances thousands of times the speed of light, you'd think they could figure out getting rid of light glare on their viewscreens.

Glare aside, perhaps this view screen allows translucent communications so the Captain can still see what's going on outside while on the phone?

 

[Michael]

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Really? You've got a computer, right, I'm assuming... how much of your front room do you see in it? :P

Realism aside, if they've mastered warping space and travelling interstellar distances thousands of times the speed of light, you'd think they could figure out getting rid of light glare on their viewscreens.

Glare aside, perhaps this view screen allows translucent communications so the Captain can still see what's going on outside while on the phone?

I don't think you are understanding what I'm trying to say. I know that in a realistic environment it would be better to have a screen that is anti-reflective. But that doesn't necessarily mean, that it looks more realistic on the movie screen, does it? We got anti-reflective screens in Star Trek for the last 40 years. I never thought that they looked particularly real. That's my thinking behind the statement that I find a screen with reflections more realistic (or realisticly looking).

 

[Tiberius Jim]

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I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

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Nero is still setting off my "cheese" alarm.

How do you watch Star Trek at all over that constant noise?

 

[Michael]

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^ That's a good one.

I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

Exactly.

 

[trevanian]

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I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

But that still doesn't jive when compared to the rear projected main screens in TUC and TFF. You have the presence of a real-image for the actors to see and play to, PLUS it doesn't have the perfect paste-in feel. Plus it doesn't have the distracting reflections. Best of both, feels real and doesn't impede viewing.

 

[Michael]

Re: New images

I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

But that still doesn't jive when compared to the rear projected main screens in TUC and TFF. You have the presence of a real-image for the actors to see and play to, PLUS it doesn't have the perfect paste-in feel. Plus it doesn't have the distracting reflections. Best of both, feels real and doesn't impede viewing.

Yeah, I liked those, too. But maybe, just maybe, they were trying to do something we hadn't seen in Trek before.

 

[M'Sharak]

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Come on, dude. He's allowed to post his impression of it, same as everyone else, and it isn't necessary to challenge someone simply because their opinion differs from your own.

From a technical standpoint, I have to agree the screen is crap. If the whole damn bridge is reflected in the main viewer, it's made useless. Seriously, we've got anti-reflective viewers and screens today (I'm using one), so to have this screen on the new Enterprise is impossible to justify.

From the standpoint of those people actually working on such a bridge, yeah, that would be a bad thing, but we're looking at a single frame here.

Suppose that, just for example, that frame was taken from a shot in which the camera (POV) dollies around behind Kirk and Spock from one side of the bridge to the other, and that only for a few frames is the image on the screen obscured by the reflections of the bridge lights. Suppose it's done purely for visual effect, as we've seen flares and reflections passing through some of the other shots from the various trailers.

If handled well, it could add some desired quality to the shot which a totally reflectionless shot lacks. I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but whatever it is, I'd want to see it in context before I check it off as a bad thing.

Wait a minute, doesn't the thread title suggest that there is more than just one new image? Dare I say it even promises it to the reader? I want my other image, damnit!

Sorry, I put this up in kind of a hurry. The images used for the magazine covers are all ones we've seen before, but the issues themselves will likely become collectibles.

Or maybe I should just go edit the thread title.

 

[Nardpuncher]

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Nero is still setting off my "cheese" alarm.

How do you watch Star Trek at all over that constant noise?

This guy's a little different. They look like they're trying too hard with the tattoos and all.

 

[HortaVorta]

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I have command of the Ko-Dan armada now, father! Rylos is MINE! And not even your precious Starfighters can save you!

 

[Michael]

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Or maybe I should just go edit the thread title.

I'd rather have another new image.

Also, altering the thread title is just a way to brag with your mod powers.

 

[Rii]

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Nero is still setting off my "cheese" alarm.

How do you watch Star Trek at all over that constant noise?

I was hoping this film would change that.

They look like they're trying too hard with the tattoos and all.

Also he seems to have acquired Saruman's staff from Orthanc.

 

[StarMan]

My first thought:




Disembodied heads ROCK!

 

[BigC]

It's The Giant Talking Head! Where's John Lithgow?

 

[ST-One]

Re: New images

I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

But that still doesn't jive when compared to the rear projected main screens in TUC and TFF. You have the presence of a real-image for the actors to see and play to, PLUS it doesn't have the perfect paste-in feel. Plus it doesn't have the distracting reflections. Best of both, feels real and doesn't impede viewing.

Yes, all true.
But this 'viewer' on the new bridge is a glass window, hence the reflections. Those graphics and Nero's image are just projected onto that window (in-universe not VFX-wise).

 

[Kirk1980]

What's wrong with the standard viewscreen approach?

My take: reinventing the wheel is not always a good idea.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

My take: reinventing the wheel is not always a good idea.

Abrams & Co were specifically hired to do that, though. God knows Paramount tried fixing the old wheel first.

 

[trevanian]

Re: New images

I see what you're saying. The reflections make the screen look more like it's actually *there* instead of added in post.

But that still doesn't jive when compared to the rear projected main screens in TUC and TFF. You have the presence of a real-image for the actors to see and play to, PLUS it doesn't have the perfect paste-in feel. Plus it doesn't have the distracting reflections. Best of both, feels real and doesn't impede viewing.

Yes, all true.
But this 'viewer' on the new bridge is a glass window, hence the reflections. Those graphics and Nero's image are just projected onto that window (in-universe not VFX-wise).

Glass doesn't have to incorporate all the reflective qualities present here, it is a deliberate choice, so rather than in-universe, let's just say it was the production designer's call, okay? Chambliss said he thought the trek universe was missing reflections, and ... well, there you go. Maybe Abrams thought the Trek universe was short a few lens flares, too.

 

[Franklin]

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Jeez, they really need to adjust the picture on that viewscreen. Brightness, sharpness, TINT...

They should've sprung for HD.

I can understand the look Abrams may be going for with his set, but in-universe, wouldn't it be critical to have your viewscreen provide the clearest and most detailed picture possible? THE GLARE! THE GLARE! ILLOGICAL! ILLOGICAL!

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Re: New images

The viewscreen doesn't always provide a clear image if the "signal" isn't good. We've seen it countless times.