I don't k ow why people are still shocked. Mining IP has been going on forever
. I would not be surprised if Firefly gets revived at some point because of it, I just don't trust that the news would come from Giant Freakin Robot.
New Firefly...but a Reboot. Say it Ain't So.
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I don't k ow why people are still shocked. Mining IP has been going on forever
. I would not be surprised if Firefly gets revived at some point because of it, I just don't trust that the news would come from Giant Freakin Robot.
I wasn't convinced Firefly had any depth to its worldbuilding until I read the Hidden Universe Traveler's Companion to the 'Verse, and I suspect pretty much everything in that book was invented after the fact to make sense of the show's confusing setting. At the time, I could never tell if anyone writing the show knew what a solar system is.
I never got into Firefly, possibly because I was rooting for the Alliance the whole time. I suspect that was not what the viewer was supposed to do. 
As well as unreasonable expectations, inflexible audience members and desiring the same old thing 20 years later.
Do something new.
Hey, there's an idea for a FF reboot: Make it an Alliance show! Hell, I'd watch it.
seriously though, that's one of the problems I had with FF: Unless the government being rebelled against clearly deserves it (and the Alliance did not - even Joss Whedon admitted that the Alliance is not an evil empire, simply a vast government), I don't get into rebels much.
In SW, for example, the rebels were clearly in the right. They're obviously the good guys, so it's easy to sympathize with them. In FF, not so much.
That said, I'm not sure what to think about those Alliance SHIPS. They look kind of...weird. A GOOD weird, to be sure, but still...weird.
You're such a rebel!
seriously though, that's one of the problems I had with FF: Unless the government being rebelled against clearly deserves it (and the Alliance did not - even Joss Whedon admitted that the Alliance is not an evil empire, simply a vast government), I don't get into rebels much.
In SW, for example, the rebels were clearly in the right. They're obviously the good guys, so it's easy to sympathize with them. In FF, not so much.
That said, I'm not sure what to think about those Alliance SHIPS. They look kind of...weird. A GOOD weird, to be sure, but still...weird.
I'd watch it just to see the Starship Troopers armor again
The Expanse is basically a by-product of a time where everyone in sci-fi was trying to do their own take on Firefly, and is certainly the most successful of these, given nowadays everyone is trying to be like The Expanse. Although I will say The Expanse toned down the similarities with Firefly in the show, the books really aren't subtle about it. Martian warships are actually described as "flying office buildings" in The Expanse books.
What I remember from the DVD interviews and commentaries, they wanted all the rich people on the show to have Chinese or Chinese influenced names as a reflection of the fact the Chinese are supposed to be major players in this world. And so, Simon and River's last name was Tam to accommodate that desire.
The Alliance is a government which conducts experiments on children and eradicates entire planetary civilizations for scientific gain. They allow their military and intelligence services carte blanche to needlessly slaughter innocent civilians. Not to mention there's the Operatives who are basically Section 31 aside from the fact they actually are officially sanctioned by the Alliance's government. If that's not evil, what is?
As a Marvel fan, I had to read this about 3 or 4 times before I realized FF was Firefly, and not Fantastic Four.Hey, there's an idea for a FF reboot: Make it an Alliance show! Hell, I'd watch it.
seriously though, that's one of the problems I had with FF: Unless the government being rebelled against clearly deserves it (and the Alliance did not - even Joss Whedon admitted that the Alliance is not an evil empire, simply a vast government), I don't get into rebels much.
To be fair, much of that was shown in the film, not in the series itself.
Well, the movie was basically a condensed version of the next two seasons worth of storyline for the show, so that stuff probably would have showed up eventually had the show continued.
But if we focus just the series itself as was aired, we know the Blue Hands were behind the experiments on River, and that they had to have some sort of official standing in the Alliance given when her, Simon and Jayne were arrested at the hospital, the police reported the matter to the Blue Hands. The Blue Hands then showed up and murdered all the police at the station to keep the secret. So the series itself still shows the Alliance is okay with experiments on children and officially sanctioned murder of civilians.
Not quite as explicitly, since we don't know the depths of influence that the Blue Hands had within the Alliance government. I see what you're saying but I hesitate to say all the Alliance is OK with this. The film definitely cements it, but I think if we had gone to Season 2 it would have looked a lot different.
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Yep. I've been digging for the past 15 minutes, and every site I checked out all source from the same rumor back in 2020 by GFR. There hasn't been a peep out of Disney from what I can tell. Yeah, Disney owns the property, and they may take advantage of it, but the notion that it will be family friendly? It's all conjecture based on an anonymous source.
So it's likely just grist for the rumor mill.
As for myself, as a Browncoat, I don't know if I'd like a Firefly reboot at this point. If it doesn't have most of the cast, the hardcore fans will likely be upset. If it is family friendly, then it's not Firefly, but a show based on the Firefly universe, which is fine, that can be done, but I don't really think it has to be family friendly just because it's Disney. I love the everloving fuck out of the Mandalorian, and it manages to have a similar tone to Firefly without the cloying sweetness that Disney can be known for, and the Star Wars universe has plenty of kid targeted stuff.
So IF it turns out to be true, I'd definitely check it out, but I'd imagine if they're going to do a new Firefly series, it will take some different roads than the original, and that's fine. The original lasted less than a season, and while it built a rich world relatively quickly, it left a LOT of unanswered questions, and plenty of room to tell other stories.
And, FWIW, I've never seen the movie. So if the Alliance is made more explicitly evil in it (which, as I said, Joss Whedon apparently never intended the Alliance to be), I'm not aware of it.
And, FWIW, I've never seen the movie. So if the Alliance is made more explicitly evil in it (which, as I said, Joss Whedon apparently never intended the Alliance to be), I'm not aware of it.
It does.
Far, far, more evil. So, yes, additional information points.And, FWIW, I've never seen the movie. So if the Alliance is made more explicitly evil in it (which, as I said, Joss Whedon apparently never intended the Alliance to be), I'm not aware of it.
Personally, after reading the potential of Season 2 the film pales in what I think could have been done.
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