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New Episodes in the US

Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.
UK TV doesn't keep the same production schedule as US TV, you'd have a hard time making more, it takes them 9 months to make the 13/14 they do now. Why sacrifice the quality for quantity?
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.

So you'd rather have 26 crap episodes than 13 good ones? Seriously how bad are attention spans in the US that people will forget about Dr Who if it doesn't run for 20 odd weeks? I guess Lost is buggered now it's dropped its season lengths! :lol:
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.

So you'd rather have 26 crap episodes than 13 good ones? Seriously how bad are attention spans in the US that people will forget about Dr Who if it doesn't run for 20 odd weeks? I guess Lost is buggered now it's dropped its season lengths! :lol:
I know, I just said the same thing in another thread.
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.

So you'd rather have 26 crap episodes than 13 good ones? Seriously how bad are attention spans in the US that people will forget about Dr Who if it doesn't run for 20 odd weeks? I guess Lost is buggered now it's dropped its season lengths! :lol:

US attention spans aren't that bad. 24's sixth season ended in May 2007 and its seventh season didn't start until January 2009, for instance. In Fall 2008, there was a TV movie special (24: Redemption), but they literally aired nothing during the 2007-2008 season after Season Six finished during the 2006-2007 season. But 24's doing fine.

And there are plenty of examples of US series from the premium channels being separated by upwards of a year or two between seasons. The Sopranos did this a lot. Hell, Battlestar Galactica has a habit of dividing up its seasons into halfs and then airing them one half at a time. The first half of Season Four, for instance, began airing during the Spring of 2008, stopped by Summer 2008, and now the second half of Season Four has begun airing this past month. So even though BSG "officially" has normal-sized seasons, in reality, it might as well have seven seasons of approximately 13 episodes rather than 4 seasons, 3 of which are of 20-something episodes, given as how the season labels don't really reflect the production and release schedule.
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?
Was rumoured to be anywhere from £800,000 an episode to £1.2m but I don't think there's been any official numbers.
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?

For my part, I always prefer to be left wanting more over being left thinking, "Ugh, there's more?" I'd much rather have some very well-written 13-episode seasons than some very uneven 22-episode seasons.
 
I'd guess it depends on how much the leading man gets paid. The Eccles season might be more expensive than, say, Tennant's first one...
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?

For my part, I always prefer to be left wanting more over being left thinking, "Ugh, there's more?" I'd much rather have some very well-written 13-episode seasons than some very uneven 22-episode seasons.

Sure I agree with you there. But, that's assuming it would be uneven. Who is to say Moffat or even RTD couldn't write a twenty-episode opus? Besides, most people would say that every thirteen-episode season has been "uneven" as far as stories go...
 
I'd guess it depends on how much the leading man gets paid. The Eccles season might be more expensive than, say, Tennant's first one...
According to The Sun (I know, it's The Sun) Tennent was getting £1m a year last year, and Matt Smith has signed up for £200,000 a year for 3 years with an option on another 2 years.
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?

For my part, I always prefer to be left wanting more over being left thinking, "Ugh, there's more?" I'd much rather have some very well-written 13-episode seasons than some very uneven 22-episode seasons.

Sure I agree with you there. But, that's assuming it would be uneven. Who is to say Moffat or even RTD couldn't write a twenty-episode opus? Besides, most people would say that every thirteen-episode season has been "uneven" as far as stories go...

I mean, it's possible that they both could. But in my experience, giving a series fewer episodes in a season will, more often than not, force the writers to boil it down to the essence of what works, and lead to a vastly improved season. Just witness how much better Jericho Season Two was than Season One, or how much better most HBO shows are than network shows.

And even if it doesn't.... Like I said: Leave 'em wanting more is always preferable to letting them have their fill. ;)
 
According to The Sun (I know, it's The Sun) Tennent was getting £1m a year last year, and Matt Smith has signed up for £200,000 a year for 3 years with an option on another 2 years.

Wow...they should have a lot of money to kick-over into production, then. Didn't Eccles get something like $3m for his season?

Just witness how much better Jericho Season Two was than Season One, or how much better most HBO shows are than network shows.

Well, I never watched Jericho. But, the reason HBO shows are better than network television is because they aren't limited by marketing, product placement, or the antiquated morality of the FCC and religious zealots of The Right....
 
According to The Sun (I know, it's The Sun) Tennent was getting £1m a year last year, and Matt Smith has signed up for £200,000 a year for 3 years with an option on another 2 years.

Wow...they should have a lot of money to kick-over into production, then. Didn't Eccles get something like $3m for his season?

Just witness how much better Jericho Season Two was than Season One, or how much better most HBO shows are than network shows.

Well, I never watched Jericho. But, the reason HBO shows are better than network television is because they aren't limited by marketing, product placement, or the antiquated morality of the FCC and religious zealots of The Right....

True. But I think it's also because they know that they only have so much time each season to get done what they want done, so they boil things down to their essence and achieve better economy of storytelling.
 
It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

2008 had 14 Dr Who, 13 Torchwood and 12 Sarah Jane Adventures. Plus 14 Dr Who Confidentials and 13 Torchwood DeClassifieds. Never top that.

Here 's the weird thing. my era of Doctor Who is the late 1980s and mainly the 90s. The late 80s I just went with the flow, not really knowing what episodes came next, or how many there were left . It was cancelled just as I was getting into it. So as result, my fandom has been by repeats, video, and audio. Very little was 'live'

13 weeks in a row has (for me) taken a lot of getting used to. There's some new episodes I've only seen twice, most Torchwood just once. 13 weeks in a row hasn't really given me time to digest them.

Part of me would rather have 1 episode a month all year than 13 in the row.

I'm not minding the year off, we were spendiing half the year without the show on Telly anyway.
 
It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

2008 had 14 Dr Who, 13 Torchwood and 12 Sarah Jane Adventures. Plus 14 Dr Who Confidentials and 13 Torchwood DeClassifieds. Never top that.

Er....when I'm talking about Doctor Who, I'm talking about "Doctor Who". All the derivatives and spin-offs don't count for me, as I don't watch any of them. ;)

All I'm saying is I would love twenty-four episodes of Doctor Who a year. I don't care if they come out twice-a-month. But, more Who is always good (to me)... :techman:
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.

So you'd rather have 26 crap episodes than 13 good ones? Seriously how bad are attention spans in the US that people will forget about Dr Who if it doesn't run for 20 odd weeks? I guess Lost is buggered now it's dropped its season lengths! :lol:

Lets not kid ourselves here, Dr. Who is not exactly a work of art. :lol: Its a fun show, a good way to spend an hour.
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?

For my part, I always prefer to be left wanting more over being left thinking, "Ugh, there's more?" I'd much rather have some very well-written 13-episode seasons than some very uneven 22-episode seasons.

Ok we are really going to have to stop agreeing on things! :lol:
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.

So you'd rather have 26 crap episodes than 13 good ones? Seriously how bad are attention spans in the US that people will forget about Dr Who if it doesn't run for 20 odd weeks? I guess Lost is buggered now it's dropped its season lengths! :lol:

Lets not kid ourselves here, Dr. Who is not exactly a work of art. :lol: Its a fun show, a good way to spend an hour.

Well a good way to spend 42 minutes at least ;)
 
Yeah, I guess the BBC just doesn't have the resources or ability to create a seasonal show with more than 13 episodes. Must be the massive power, skill, resource, and availability of Hollywood that allows many US shows to have upwards of 20-something episodes a season. It's a shame because Doctor Who could really benefit from having longer seasons, in terms of personal viewing enjoyment. ;)

I wonder how much a thirteen-episode season of Who costs, all totaled?

For my part, I always prefer to be left wanting more over being left thinking, "Ugh, there's more?" I'd much rather have some very well-written 13-episode seasons than some very uneven 22-episode seasons.

Ok we are really going to have to stop agreeing on things! :lol:

Rose is awesome and Russell T. Davies is a wonderful writer who has yet to write a genuinely bad episode. :)
 
Well, for me 13 episodes is just too short. I'm not sure how a show can have 6 episodes a season, unless its a mini-series. With such a world wide demand for the show one would think that they would bump up the number of episodes.

Oh well, I can survive without it, but the short run risks that new fans, younger fans, forget about the show and move on. At least here in the US.
I seem to remember reading somewhere (maybe the book I have about the making of the first two seasons) that filming 14 episodes of Doctor Who takes about 9 months, so they can't really any more episodes or the actors would be doing it all year.
 
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