Which ones are not his?
New Appreciation for TAS
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Yeah, but I don't really like the new aesthetic, to be honest.
Trek to me was always the nice, sterile and professional future, vs the grimy used tech of something like Star Wars or virtually any other kind of scifi.
The new stuff still keeps the modern look, but it's not sterile or very warming, thus not very Trek to me.
The old 90s shows and even the later original cast films are how I've always imagined and saw Star Trek.
Not so. As I mentioned before, TAS was intended to be the first Saturday morning animated series made for adults. It was written on essentially the same level of sophistication as TOS, just shorter and with less sex and violence. A number of its episodes were actually based on unused TOS pitches or scripts. About half of them were written by TOS veterans (there was a writers' strike affecting prime-time shows at the time, so a lot of writers of "adult" shows were available), and only a small number were by writers who worked primarily in kids' TV.
You mean which voices attributed to Doohan weren't really his? Well, I don't want to go through Memory Alpha to find all the characters alleged to be Doohan's, but examples of characters played by unknown actors include engineer Gabler from multiple episodes; Bates, Erikson, and Aleek-Om in "Yesteryear"; Lt. Carver in "The Lorelei Signal"; Kaz and one of the "lost" Klingons in "The Time Trap"; Lt. Clayton and Nephro in "The Ambergris Element"; the minor Kzinti in "The Slaver Weapon"; the Romulan commander in "The Practical Joker"; O'Shea and the subordinate Orions in "The Pirates of Orion"; and Demos in "Albatross."
Several voices in TAS were done by producer Lou Scheimer, who did many voices for Filmation shows, including announcer voices for most of them, Dumb Donald in Fat Albert, Bat-Mite in The New Adventures of Batman, and Orko in He-Man (those last two being pretty much exactly the same character and voice). Scheimer's uncredited but easily recognizable voice can be heard as Cadmar and Lemus in "The Ambergris Element," a junior Romulan officer in "The Practical Joker," and the prison guard in "Albatross."
I agree. It never felt like we were short changed with the 22 minute run time. Still plenty packed in.
Even at 22mins they often felt padded to me, what with the trademark Filmation slow pans across backgrounds eating up runtime.
Yeah, but they were beautiful backgrounds. The artwork in Filmation shows might've been fairly static, but it was much more clean and aesthetically pleasing than the crude stuff Hanna-Barbera was doing at the same time. They traded off quantity for quality -- by doing less animation and fewer distinct images, they could put more time and care into the images they did create.
This was a key takeaway from TAS for me- they were suddenly freed from the confines of what could be physically produced for cameras, so it felt a lot more bold in its vision. The first episode has these freaky alien ships with insectoid features, already quite creatively exciting compared to the majority of TOS, but other vivid things from my memory included aliens the size of mountains fighting, an episode spent largely underwater, an episode spent inside a massive space creature- lots of cool stuff they couldn't really do on the live show.
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Gul Sengosts
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Recently watched it (and completed it) for the first time, and what can I say, it's not half bad. Animation is dreadful, most of the time restricted to mouth and eye movement so that I'd actually call it "The Not Animated Series", but in terms of story etc. it's better than I expected.
In my opinion it's better than Discovery, better than most of ENT, and about on par with VOY.
In my opinion it's better than Discovery, better than most of ENT, and about on par with VOY.
I haven't watched TAS since it was on in the 70's, but I remember avidly watching them as a kid on Saturday mornings. I remember I used to love them.
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marlboro
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It's a product of its time. Most Saturday morning TV animation at the time was comparable, though as I said, Filmation's was a bit more limited and repetitive than most because that let them devote their time to other things like the quality of the backgrounds. Also, TAS season 1 was produced under an exceptionally tight deadline, so they had to cut corners even more than usual. Season 2 has somewhat better animation.
Funny I've always pronounced it as O-fya-kuss and not Oafy-ook-us myself! But the Orion ruins were mentioned in Operation:Annihilate and Orion pirates as such appeared in Journey To Babel, so they should have got it right!
JB
Like Kirk talking to McCoy in sick-bay while he is standing next to him on the bridge? Or the odd mistake in costume colours and the flippant use of star dates which set some of the episodes between the live action series and one, Magicks of Megas Tu before the start of the whole franchise!!!
JB
"Yesteryear" also pronounced "Orion" correctly, so it wasn't a TAS problem overall, just a problem with "The Pirates of Orion" specifically.
In fairness, these problems also occurred in the live action show, but for different reasons.
Lots of shows used those sound effects. Back when sound effects were stored on physical tapes and vinyl records, there was a finite supply of them available, and a few sound editing companies provided their audio libraries to numerous productions. In fact, IIRC, Filmation's sound editing company Horta-Mahana bought the Star Trek sound effects library from Glen Glenn for TAS, and thus was able to add those sounds to its repertoire on later shows.
And they would have gotten away with it, too, if not for those meddlesome human kids!I know you mean that as a bad thing, but that would be a crossover I would've loved to have seen! Kirk hitting on Daphne, Velma swooning over Spock, Shaggy and Scooby draining the food dispensers dry, all before discovering that the Ghosts of Starbase 10 were actually Orion smugglers trying to scare Starfleet out of the system to sneak contraband through it
So, would that make M'Ress the funny animal sidekick/mascot?!
"Would you do it for one 'snort' of 'nip'? No? How 'bout two 'snorts'? What? Three?! Okay, but only after you've lured the pirates this way."
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