New *Animated* Short Trek: Ephraim & Dot

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by pst, Nov 14, 2019.

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So which animated Short Trek is the winner?

  1. Ephraim and Dot

    57 vote(s)
    78.1%
  2. The Girl Who Made The Stars

    6 vote(s)
    8.2%
  3. Neither, animated Short Treks are rubbish

    10 vote(s)
    13.7%
  1. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    I am very comfortable at this point with TOS being the outlier and no longer part of the main continuity.
     
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    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The original (!) show that started it all should never be an outlier and be kicked out of main continuity... :crazy::wtf:
     
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  3. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Yes and no. I understand the emotion behind wanting to keep it in the main continuity. But, the show is fifty years old and simply doesn't fit what they are doing now.

    So Star Trek stays "Star Trek" and is a wide open world where no of the rest exists and anything can happen. I'm okay with that.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Their modus operandi is to make a product with mass appeal that makes them money. It a "TOS retro" could make them money they'd do it.
     
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    I know their goal is to make money. That goes without saying. And yes, if retro made money they’d make DSC look just like TOS. But how do you know that retro wouldn’t make money?
     
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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Niche market.
     
  7. BillJ

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    Though I'd counter with, Star Trek is a niche market at this point. :p
     
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  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Retro TOS is a niche in a niche. :p
     
  9. Dukhat

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    Science fiction fans are a niche market anyway, and Trek fans even more so. And I would think whatever casual tv viewers CBS is trying to attract wouldn’t care about the retro nature and would be more interested in a good story with good characters.
     
  10. Nerys Myk

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    I think they would. CBS isn't making comedies that look like I Love Lucy either.
     
  11. Dukhat

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    That would depend on the audience. I have no particular affinity for the 1970’s, but I absolutely loved That ‘70’s Show because of the humor and the actors/characters.
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    There's a difference between making a show set in the 1970s and making a show that looks like it was made in the 1970s. Plus the 1970's are real. The 2270's, not so much.
     
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    That’s not the point. DSC is supposed to be a prequel to TOS. Except it doesn’t look remotely like TOS. If the creators of That ‘70’s Show made their show look like it actually took place in the ‘90’s (when the show was produced) then it wouldn’t look realistic in the context of that show.

    But all that aside, I still think that DSC having a more retro look would have been fine, with the understanding that even casual tv viewers know about TOS and ‘get’ the concept of a prequel. And that if the story was great and the characters were outstanding, the window dressing wouldn’t matter.
     
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    I would complain less if the ships interior and exterior matchedi
    If I had the skills I would make the attempt.
     
  15. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Again the 1970's are real. The 23rd Century of Star Trek isn't. It's fiction and is mutable to fit a changing and evolving idea of what the future will look like.
     
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    That's my view as well. It amuses me to see Star Trek, a franchise about humanity's future, keeps clinging to the past.
     
  17. Dukhat

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    Then I guess we’ll agree to disagree. :beer:
     
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    If they had changed the TOS look in its appearance on TNG, DS9, and ENT already, it would be less of an issue now. But they kept it consistent throughout the years, only to now go wild and change it. Even the JJA movies kept consistency intact by opening a parallel timeline. So after 50 years of unchanged conserved reaffirmed 2260s designs on the air, suddenly they lose their relevance or appeal?
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    Yup.
     
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  20. Nerys Myk

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    For a series and not a one off nostalgia trip? Yes.
     
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