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What should CBS Studios International do?


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Given none of us have seen what they're going to do WRT the situation (and I don't think the idea of 'bringing him back' for the second season was due to any outcry per se - it seems to have been part of the plan in the same way they were certain they were going to bring in the 1701 Enterprise at the end of the Season.

As for Star Trek being 'Hack' writing, come on have you actually watched what they've done overall in the past 52 years? The majority of it is pulp based tropes and 'hack writing'. I've been a first ruin Star Trek fan since 1969 (I was 6); and while I love it, I'll freely admit the majority of it ain't that well written. Yes, they do occasionally put out a real gem; but I'll never understand the folks who believe the vast majority of Star Trek is somehow akin to Shakesphere or some altogether honestly great literary work.

In the end, it's just a TV show (or occasionally a film); and PRIMARILY designed as light entertainment. ;)

It didn't seem part of the plan to me at all. Comments made around the time by bts folks suggested to me that the ghost episode was their big 'but he'll be back!' trump card. It was only after that went over like a lead balloon that they started rumbling about his story not being over yet.

As for 'hack writing', that wasn't my term and I wouldn't use it to describe DSC in general. I would say 'mixed bag', with this particular decision being squarely in the bad column.

I don't think Trek has always been shakespearean or even just consistently quality, but I also don't give a pass to bad writing just because 'it's only a tv show'. Why should I? Plenty of tv shows manage to have good writing, some of them even consistently so.

And the standards are higher today than they were the last time Trek was at bat. I agree DSC season 1 is actually pretty good compared to other 1st seasons from this franchise. But compared to 1st seasons of other contemporary shows - the shows that it actually has to compete against - it's barely keeping up. Even worse, DSC has chosen to compete not just in the modern world but also on modern styles. Serialization magnifies bad ideas and poor writing in a way that drags the consequences out across multiple episodes rather than letting the audience forget by next week the way TNG did. If you choose to compete on that playing field then you have to do better. And this particular issue is one of several examples which altogether really dragged the entire end of the season down and undermined the show. Taken together, they are the reason why I like many of the episodes of the show but found the overarching story to be a total bust and a pointless waste of time.

Tilly. I want Tilly to fall in love with Burnham. I've wanted that since I first saw their interactions together. I just like the two of them as a pair, and would love to see them turn a friendship into a deep, abiding romantic relationship.

On the one hand, I love them together and that could be really interesting. On the other hand, I think they're the best friendship in the history of the franchise. I'd hate to sacrifice that on the altar of romantic drama.
 
On the one hand, I love them together and that could be really interesting. On the other hand, I think they're the best friendship in the history of the franchise. I'd hate to sacrifice that on the altar of romantic drama.
Same. I always fear romance and how it messes up the dynamics of characters. The episodes in Trek I tolerate the least are ones that revolve around personal romance.
 
On the one hand, I love them together and that could be really interesting. On the other hand, I think they're the best friendship in the history of the franchise. I'd hate to sacrifice that on the altar of romantic drama.

Same. I always fear romance and how it messes up the dynamics of characters. The episodes in Trek I tolerate the least are ones that revolve around personal romance.

Fair points raised by both of you, but I'd be fine if it was unrequited (for a while). Just imagine sweet, bubbly Tilly too nervous to approach Michael about developing feelings. Their outer friendship would appear normal, but we would get an inside look at what Tilly really feels for Michael, and I think it would be sweet to watch (as long as there is a payoff. I want a payoff).

From the outside, Michael brushing against Tilly's hand, or giving her a friendly hug or pat on the back seems perfectly platonic to Michael, but we know how Tilly really feels, and how much she treasures just being around Michael.

*floats off into dreamland*
 
Same. I always fear romance and how it messes up the dynamics of characters. The episodes in Trek I tolerate the least are ones that revolve around personal romance.
That's just because they tend to do a rather crap job of it.

That said, Tyler/Burnham had some tender moments in between it being awkward, which is exactly what they were going for.
 
That's just because they tend to do a rather crap job of it.

That said, Tyler/Burnham had some tender moments in between it being awkward, which is exactly what they were going for.
That's the thing. I love tender and awkward moments because it makes them so real. Trying to say that it must be a romance feels like pigeon-holing in a way that's unnecessary.

And, yes, Star Trek romances tend to be crap, with the shinning examples being that way because of how badly it is handled. So, if the choice is either no romance or bad romance give me no romance.
 
The overseas folks really didn't miss much. Mary Wiseman was good, as usual, but the story was pretty lackluster and didn't really make much sense.
 
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