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News Netflix not airing Short Treks, deal future questioned

What should CBS Studios International do?


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https://www.tvwise.co.uk/2018/09/star-trek-discovery-spin-off-short-treks-not-coming-to-netflix/

This isn't surprising, as Netflix probably wants out of the Star Trek deal, as it's inadvertently helping a competitor. They have their own similar vibe space series starting soon too, with Katee Sackhoff.

So does CBS All Access go global a little earlier than planned? Or do they find a new partner? I've done a poll.

Oh you've done a poll! So the sky is falling then?
 
Trek is clearly being used -- you might say sacrificed -- to expand the All Access brand. I expect that strategy will continue as CBS tries to expand All Access' reach.
Oh, like UPN? This is neither new nor interesting.
 
Somebody stated in the other theard that netflix doesn't air any of the supplemental stuff that CW does either so sounds like this is normal for them.
It really depends. They sometimes put some of the Riverdale bonus content on their UK YouTube page, but never on Netflix itself.
 
What is currently the likeliest (and legal) scenario for Rest of the World-ers might see Short Treks?
 
https://www.tvwise.co.uk/2018/09/star-trek-discovery-spin-off-short-treks-not-coming-to-netflix/

This isn't surprising, as Netflix probably wants out of the Star Trek deal, as it's inadvertently helping a competitor. They have their own similar vibe space series starting soon too, with Katee Sackhoff.

So does CBS All Access go global a little earlier than planned? Or do they find a new partner? I've done a poll.
i think its more: Wait - you want how much for 4 15 minute episodes (basically one more full episode). Netflix may not have thought it was worth it - or they wanted to see if CBS might just give them as promotional material.

If Netflix wanted 'out of the deal'; they probably would have nixed it all AFTER they finished streaming Season 1. They obviously wanted ST: D Season 2 itself.
 
Oh, like UPN? This is neither new nor interesting.
I don't think being new or interesting has anything to do with it. DSC is simply a way to help launch their new entertainment venue.

Maybe using a Star Trek to launch a new service is unoriginal and uninteresting, but it still does the job.
 
What is currently the likeliest (and legal) scenario for Rest of the World-ers might see Short Treks?
Netflix UK's Facebook or YouTube page at best, or the S2 Blu-rays. Maybe they'll wait until January and air them then? But I reckon we're expected to just illegally watch them.
 
Side thought, YouTube Premium wouldn't be the worst international partner for CBS All Access, if Netflix doesn't work out. No idea what the numbers are though.
 
Even if it's region locked/blocked to US/Canadian viewers?

No. I don't see them allowing stuff that costs $6-$8M to make to just be put on youtube. That would likely be seen a devaluing the brand. Fan Films go only to youtube not something like that .

And that may be the point of disagreement. Netflix may want to just put them on youtube and CBS wants them on a broadcast or streaming service.
 
No. I don't see them allowing stuff that costs $6-$8M to make to just be put on youtube.
It would probably end up breaking some sort of record as the most expensive free YouTube series in history. Yeah, I don't see CBS Studios International allowing that at all. They'd probably prefer they just aired it themselves on one of their UK channels instead.
 
I'm going to backtrack. I don't think Netflix wants to end their co-licensing deal, they want to expand it, but CBS Studios International isn't giving them the Picard series, so until they secure the future of Star Trek, no Short Treks.
 
Even if it's region locked/blocked to US/Canadian viewers?
Right now, access to Star Trek Discovery sits behind a $7 a month paywall in the United States, so they're not really concerned with whether or not users outside of that pay service can see the show. Their app is one of the crappiest streaming apps I've ever used, their servers can barely maintain a connection when the show is actually airing, and HD is hit and miss at best on episode release days, and those are people who are paying for the service directly.
 
they're not really concerned with whether or not users outside of that pay service can see the show.
This is not really true at all, when CBS Studios International exists. It accounts for a massive chunk of CBS's overall revenues. This idea they don't give a shit about international audiences isn't remotely true.

CBS and Warner Bros. basically pioneered the "give a shit about your international fanbase" model, how do you think The CW operates and thrives?

CBS Studios International literally just signed a deal with Channel 4 in the UK to ensure The Good Fight stays on Channel 4's More4, and doesn't become a CBS All Access exclusive in the UK.

That also means it's very likely the Picard series will be what CBS All Access launches with in the UK, as it can't rely on The Good Fight and its 600k+ UK fans anymore.

This stalemate over Short Treks has to be because of a larger conversation about Star Trek's future.
 
This is not really true at all, when CBS Studios International exists. It accounts for a massive chunk of CBS's overall revenues. This idea they don't give a shit about international audiences isn't remotely true.

CBS and Warner Bros. basically pioneered the "give a shit about your international fanbase" model, how do you think The CW operates and thrives?

CBS Studios International literally just signed a deal with Channel 4 in the UK to ensure The Good Fight stays on Channel 4's More4, and doesn't become a CBS All Access exclusive in the UK.

That also means it's very likely the Picard series will be what CBS All Access launches with in the UK, as it can't rely on The Good Fight and its 600k+ UK fans anymore.

This stalemate over Short Treks has to be because of a larger conversation about Star Trek's future.
CBS Studios International exists, yet CBS All Access only works in the United States and, recently, Canada (possibly Australia soon). So as I said, they're not really concerned with whether or not users outside of that pay service can see the show. I didn't say they didn't give a shit, I said they're not really concerned, and there is a lot of wiggle room between the two.
 
It’s irrelevant where it’ll be. There’s always ways of finding what you want online.
 
Meh,I wasn’t that interested in them anyway so it no big loss. There are “other” ways to watch them after all.
It’s irrelevant where it’ll be. There’s always ways of finding what you want online.
I let it slide the first time because you didn't mention any specific method of piracy, but don't continue to advocate for piracy in the thread.
 
I find the constant conspiracy theories as to why Discovery will fail some of the funniest stuff on here, but this thread may take the cake. So far the OP, in the same thread, has suggested that Netflix is desperate to end the agreement, and when he got no support has pivoted 180 degrees and now advocates that instead CBS is the one looking to end it.

All this of course almost certainly means nothing as the chance that the original deal was for one season/year is very small. That's just not how these sort of deals work.

Keep in mind that this deal also included streaming rights for all the other Trek shows as well. Netflix aren't going to shell out big money (rumour was it paid for the entire Discovery production) and leave it's subscribers one year to watch 700 odd episodes...
 
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