Nero's wife???

[Kemaiku]

Whats more annoying about that scene is that she appears to have tattoo-ing as well, both around the temples and across her upper chest.

 

[SalvorHardin]

And why is it annoying ?

 

[Kemaiku]

And why is it annoying ?

The tattoos are meant to be about grief, tattooed or in Nero's case burned in when someone dies. At least according to Countdown.

But the film makes it seem that all Romulans have them all the time, and that the only difference with Nero and his crew is that they shave their heads probably because of the more manual labour nature of their work.

 

[SalvorHardin]

And why is it annoying ?

The tattoos are meant to be about grief, tattooed or in Nero's case burned in when someone dies. At least according to Countdown.

Ultimately, irrelevant since we don't get any of that in the movie (unfortunately)

But the film makes it seem that all Romulans have them all the time, and that the only difference with Nero and his crew is that they shave their heads probably because of the more manual labour nature of their work.

Meh...I would never assume an entire species of billions is tattooed in the face just because a handful of miners of the same guild are.
Just like I would never assume all the billions of Romulans are bald (or have bowl cuts).

 

[Kemaiku]

It is easier all round to ignore Countdown, but it does raise questions as to the nature of the tattoo's, since Nero and his group are rather lowly and don't posses the brow ridges they could be another smaller sect/sub species on Romulus.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Whats more annoying about that scene is that she appears to have tattoo-ing as well, both around the temples and across her upper chest.

So would that be a tit-for-tat situation then?

 

[The Wormhole]

correct me if im wrong folks, but i remember hearing somewhere that the tat on the romulans is more of an outward showing of grief, like how some people cut their hair when they lose something.
so to answer The Wormhole's question no she wouldn't have one, cause (I'm assuming) she did die on Romulus and would have no reason to be grieving at the time.

I asked that question over a year ago, before Countdown was published and provided its explanation of the tattoos representing Romulan grief. At the time I asked it it was a completely legitimate question. Not that I should have to explain, since I was joking at the time anyway.

Oh, and Countdown and anything explained there isn't canon. Narada does not have Borg tech, Data hasn't been resurrected and Geordi did not build Spock's ship, which is not named Jellyfish.

 

[Kemaiku]

^Gladly. I'll just go with the symbols being something of a lower class Romulan trait or fashion.

 

[Traveller]

It is easier all round to ignore Countdown, but it does raise questions as to the nature of the tattoo's, since Nero and his group are rather lowly and don't posses the brow ridges they could be another smaller sect/sub species on Romulus.

Lowly how? And how would that be proof that they are a Romulan "subspecies"?

That you'd take the ridglessness (is that a word? I like it) as a sign for a different ethnicity I can understand, but as far as I'm concerned, Romulans never had ridges, and Klingons always had them. So, no need for me to invoke different Romulan "races" (and since Romulans are Vulcan offshoots, they should look alike).

But then I don't give a about canon...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I was shocked at Nero's wife's long pretty curly hair. Not since The Enterprise Incident have we seen a Romulan woman with long pretty hair. It was kind of weird.

 

[DevilEyes]

I was shocked at Nero's wife's long pretty curly hair. Not since The Enterprise Incident have we seen a Romulan woman with long pretty hair. It was kind of weird.

Not as weird as an entire species wearing the same stupid haircut.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Oh, and Countdown and anything explained there isn't canon. Narada does not have Borg tech, Data hasn't been resurrected and Geordi did not build Spock's ship, which is not named Jellyfish.

Canon: The institutionalized discrimination of Star Trek.



I hadn’t noticed the wife had tatts too. She doesn’t have them in Countdown.

Also I noticed some woman on Nero’s crew had dreads in the film.

I really like Countdown’s tattoo backstory to Nero’s gang, as well as the Nerada getting upgraded at a secret Romulan facility (the less said about the Vulcan Praetor though, the better), and I’d be annoyed if they totally ignored Countdown and had 23rd century Romulans wearing rags, with bald heads and tattoos and flying space octopuses in STXII.

Of course some people here (lookin' at you, Wormhole) would *love* to see Countdown contradicted, if only because it’s a comic and “comics aren’t canon” and thus it is “utterly worthless”. Those people must have missed the fact that George and Winona Kirk are characters taken from the “non-canon/worthless garbage” novels (Final Frontier and Best Destiny, amongst others). But I'm getting off-topic...

 

[M'Sharak]

Oh, and Countdown and anything explained there isn't canon. Narada does not have Borg tech, Data hasn't been resurrected and Geordi did not build Spock's ship, which is not named Jellyfish.

Canon: The institutionalized discrimination of Star Trek.



I hadn’t noticed the wife had tatts too. She doesn’t have them in Countdown.

Also I noticed some woman on Nero’s crew had dreads in the film.

I really like Countdown’s tattoo backstory to Nero’s gang, as well as the Nerada getting upgraded at a secret Romulan facility (the less said about the Vulcan Praetor though, the better), and I’d be annoyed if they totally ignored Countdown and had 23rd century Romulans wearing rags, with bald heads and tattoos and flying space octopuses in STXII.

You were good up to here, and there was nothing wrong with Wormhole's assertion that only the portions of Countdown directly referenced in the movie are technically canon, given that it was part of a response to someone's reply to a (joking, as many of his are) post he made more than a year ago.

Of course some people here (lookin' at you, Wormhole) would *love* to see Countdown contradicted, if only because it’s a comic and “comics aren’t canon” and thus it is “utterly worthless”. Those people must have missed the fact that George and Winona Kirk are characters taken from the “non-canon/worthless garbage” novels (Final Frontier and Best Destiny, amongst others). But I'm getting off-topic...

You're also getting more personal in this paragraph than was warranted. Address the content of the post or let it go unanswered--which one you choose is up to you--but don't go putting words in anyone else's mouth or attributing sentiments to them which they have not themselves expressed.

 

[Corran Horn]

I know...only Nero's wife had tattoos pre-destruction of Romulus.

Then, when she died, Nero was like "Hey, let's all get tattoos to honor her!"

 

[therealfoxbat]

Wouldn't her tats have been removed when the hypernova blast hit Romulus...?

 

[David cgc]

In a sense, I suppose.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Oh, and Countdown and anything explained there isn't canon.

I don't care.

We're obviously not going to get any *other* background to all this, so as far as I'm concerned, Countdown is as definitive as can be.

Narada does not have Borg tech

You got a better explanation as to why a mere mining vessel would be that massive and have weapons capable of taking out entire fleets of starships?

 

[Traveller]

She doesn't have tattoos. The lines were an effect of the hologram. Spock's head in the scene with Cpt. Robau has them, too.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I was shocked at Nero's wife's long pretty curly hair. Not since The Enterprise Incident have we seen a Romulan woman with long pretty hair. It was kind of weird.

Caithlin Dar (ST V) had long hair, IIRC.

 

[M'Sharak]

She doesn't have tattoos. The lines were an effect of the hologram. Spock's head in the scene with Cpt. Robau has them, too.

You're right; the lines are more like an optical interference pattern or other imaging artifact, and even more pronounced on the Spock hologram.

Incompatible video format, perhaps?