Nero's Defeat

[All Seeing Eye]

How do you people rate the destruction of Nero? getting sucked into a blackhole? I thought it was pretty decent. I like how they used the blackhole thing as how they were able to time travel so Nero's ship went in as well as out of the blackhole.

I enjoyed how the effect of Nero getting sucked in at the end looked similar to his ship coming out when time travelling.

So what are your thoughts on Neros defeat?

 

[Trekwatcher]

By that point I was so enmeshed on thinking about the whole alternate universe thing it barely was a blip on my radar.

 

[RoJoHen]

I would have preferred if our noble Starfleet heroes had actually rescued Nero and his crew, but I will chalk that up to youth and inexperience.

 

[Jeyl]

Well, I knew the moment that Nero was using a substance called Red Matter that creates black holes, I knew that was going to be his downfall. So when the black hole decimated the Narada, I pretty much said out loud "seen it".

 

[trampledamage]

I would have preferred if our noble Starfleet heroes had actually rescued Nero and his crew, but I will chalk that up to youth and inexperience.

Or at least tried to save him!

Which would also usefully have given them a better reason for getting caught in the black hole themselves, rather than the way it is now which is they were all distracted by watching Nero die they forgot to move out of the way.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

You honestly expect someone to save him after he committed genocide against the Vulcans and wiped out 6 Billion of them?

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, it's the Star Trek thing to do. At least it's what the 24th Century Trek captain would do. I need to get back TOS mode, where it's okay to kill your enemies.

 

[USS Triumphant]

You honestly expect someone to save him after he committed genocide against the Vulcans and wiped out 6 Billion of them?

Indeed. And I thought Spock's line when he asked Kirk what he was doing in trying to save him was pretty good.

 

[Jeyl]

I would have preferred if our noble Starfleet heroes had actually rescued Nero and his crew, but I will chalk that up to youth and inexperience.

Would have been interesting if they had Nero and his crew all preparing to meet their end and accept their fates when all of a sudden they're beamed over to the Enterprise. This could have been a great moment to see some sort of genuine character moment for Nero being put in a situation where there is nothing left for him, and than be at the mercy of those he's been trying to destroy. I guess the writers just like to take the easy way out.

 

[trampledamage]

You honestly expect someone to save him after he committed genocide against the Vulcans and wiped out 6 Billion of them?

Actually, yes.

 

[James Pike]

You honestly expect someone to save him after he committed genocide against the Vulcans and wiped out 6 Billion of them?

Actually, yes.

Of course someone must pay for his crimes or someother such wussy saying. Good, Nero needed to die. It serves to show that Spock and Kirk even with there "advanced enlightened culture ways" still see vengance as an acceptible action.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

If I had been Nero, I would rather have died too. Imagine what life would be like if he got arrested by the Feds. He wasn't very happy as captain of his ship, I doubt he'd like being thrown into prison and tried for genocide.

 

[trampledamage]

You honestly expect someone to save him after he committed genocide against the Vulcans and wiped out 6 Billion of them?

Actually, yes.

Of course someone must pay for his crimes or someother such wussy saying. Good, Nero needed to die. It serves to show that Spock and Kirk even with there "advanced enlightened culture ways" still see vengance as an acceptible action.

And everyone else on the ship, right down to the guy tasked with cleaning the floors and emptying the garbage - it's allright for him to be sucked into a black hole?

I don't think vengeance is an acceptable action, and I especially don't think it's an acceptable action against a few hundred souls who took no part in the crime other than to be on the ship.

 

[Vger]

He lost everything important to him so after he achieved his revenge death was the only alternative.

 

[trampledamage]

If I had been Nero, I would rather have died too. Imagine what life would be like if he got arrested by the Feds. He wasn't very happy as captain of his ship, I doubt he'd like being thrown into prison and tried for genocide.

Oh, I completely agree there. Nero wanted to die.

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

They offered to help him but he declined.

This didn't bother Kirk and Spock too much, however.

 

[miraclefan]

Actually, yes.

Of course someone must pay for his crimes or someother such wussy saying. Good, Nero needed to die. It serves to show that Spock and Kirk even with there "advanced enlightened culture ways" still see vengance as an acceptible action.

And everyone else on the ship, right down to the guy tasked with cleaning the floors and emptying the garbage - it's allright for him to be sucked into a black hole?

I don't think vengeance is an acceptable action, and I especially don't think it's an acceptable action against a few hundred souls who took no part in the crime other than to be on the ship.

If they were on that ship they knew what was going on, even those ''emptying the garbage'' I think getting sucked in to a black hole was a justified punishment for ALL of them.

 

[Timo]

But if extended vengeance is a valid justification, then all those Vulcans also died for their dark green sins and good riddance to them. That was Nero's deserved vengeance being served there.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[miraclefan]

But if extended vengeance is a valid justification, then all those Vulcans also died for their dark green sins and good riddance to them. That was Nero's deserved vengeance being served there.

Timo Saloniemi

Maybe the Vulcans of Nero's universe, but NOT the Vulcans in this NU - universe! They (NU-Vulcans) had nothing to do with the destruction of NERO'S Romulas.

 

[USS Triumphant]

I don't think vengeance is an acceptable action, and I especially don't think it's an acceptable action against a few hundred souls who took no part in the crime other than to be on the ship.

There weren't that many people on Nero's ship - maybe a couple of dozen other miners, tops, and they'd have all been in on it. It isn't like they had no opportunities to leave the ship. (I know you've only got my word for that at this point, but trust me - it isn't.) The ship was highly automated as part of its Borgification.