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Nero? (Theoretical Spoilers)

The question i have is were did the Narada come from, Was this huge ship built (like the Scimatar) under everyones nose's, or was this some ailen vessal that nero either found or stole. i would lean towards the later since I dont see anything remotly romulan looking about it.
If they are, in fact, "pirates," they probably stole it from somebody. And I'm all for that.
 
Nero sure keeps getting a lot of weird things revealed about him. First weird thing: he's a time travelling Romulan. Then he has a tattoo. Then he has a Space Octopus. Then he's a convict. Then he has a wife. What's next? Him being Spock's son has already been suggested. After that? We'll probably find out he's suffering from some form of space cancer, you know to make him a sympathetic villain. Or maybe his wife has space cancer. Or something.

Sorry, the whole pont of this post was because I wanted to use the term "space cancer."
 
It occurred to me that there is supposedly some "secret" as to what Nero is doing, and why, in the new film. A curious thought dawned on me the other day....is it possible that Nero could be the son of Saavik and Spock? Seems kind of left-field, I know. And I don't follow all the spoilers, so I might have missed something that completely eliminates this possibility. But, it would help in defining why Spock feels the need to travel back in time to stop him. I don't know, too crazy an idea?

It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practically nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Heh... Nero could have Space Cancer....

Take a gander at those Cloven Feet!!!
TREK11-NerosFeetcloseup.jpg
 
It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practally nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Future Guy was from the 28th century. Nero is from the 24th.
 
It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practically nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Future Guy was from the 28th century. Nero is from the 24th.


We first meet him while he's in the 24th Century...

We have no clue where he is originally from.

Perhaps he's been sent back in time by Daniels Superiors to this Klingon Prison for his crimes in Temporal Tampering...?

Possibly to a place where They thought he would "supposedly" not be able to do any more damage.

(I know this is all a pretty big Reach, but it's fun to speculate on all the possibilities.) :)
 
It occurred to me that there is supposedly some "secret" as to what Nero is doing, and why, in the new film. A curious thought dawned on me the other day....is it possible that Nero could be the son of Saavik and Spock? Seems kind of left-field, I know. And I don't follow all the spoilers, so I might have missed something that completely eliminates this possibility. But, it would help in defining why Spock feels the need to travel back in time to stop him. I don't know, too crazy an idea?

It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practically nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Heh... Nero could have Space Cancer....

Take a gander at those Cloven Feet!!!
TREK11-NerosFeetcloseup.jpg

Does anyone else get the "I.. have had.. enough.. of you!!" STIII vibe from this image.
 
It occurred to me that there is supposedly some "secret" as to what Nero is doing, and why, in the new film. A curious thought dawned on me the other day....is it possible that Nero could be the son of Saavik and Spock? Seems kind of left-field, I know. And I don't follow all the spoilers, so I might have missed something that completely eliminates this possibility. But, it would help in defining why Spock feels the need to travel back in time to stop him. I don't know, too crazy an idea?

It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practically nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Heh... Nero could have Space Cancer....

Take a gander at those Cloven Feet!!!

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee268/DaveyNY/TREK11-NerosFeetcloseup.jpg
Maybe he's wearing tabi with sandals? (Translated from the original Romulan, natch.)
 
It occurred to me that there is supposedly some "secret" as to what Nero is doing, and why, in the new film. A curious thought dawned on me the other day....is it possible that Nero could be the son of Saavik and Spock? Seems kind of left-field, I know. And I don't follow all the spoilers, so I might have missed something that completely eliminates this possibility. But, it would help in defining why Spock feels the need to travel back in time to stop him. I don't know, too crazy an idea?

It could be that, but just as feasible, from what WE know so far, (which is practically nothing) is that He's possibly the 'Future Guy' from ENTERPRISE.

I wouldn't put either choice outta reach of JJ & Company.

Heh... Nero could have Space Cancer....

Take a gander at those Cloven Feet!!!

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee268/DaveyNY/TREK11-NerosFeetcloseup.jpg
Maybe he's wearing tabi with sandals? (Translated from the original Romulan, natch.)

Yeah, yer probably right...but in that pic they do look like hoofs. ;)

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Sulu will probably save him...... as an inside joke.

Just 'cause the two original actors have a running public feud going on.:lol:
 
Turn N sideways and its Z, now you have Zero which ties in to his hatred of the USS Kelvin and its registry that reduces zero to a mere placeholder. After that, their destinies are inextricably intertwined.
 
Someone somewhere else even speculated half-jokingly that Nero was Future Guy from ENTERPRISE and this was his last ditch attempt to change history to better suit his own timeline and history.:lol:
 
I would imagine that there's no blood connection between Nero and Spock, but that the Romulan Empire was greatly weakened after Nemesis and perhaps parts of it forced into submission to the Klingon Empire. Nero is a political prisoner. He's got a group of renegades (maybe former soldiers?). Spock may even be working for his release.

Nero's broken out. Nero's people have a plan to go back and eliminate what they see as the cause of Romulus' descent on the galactic stage. They may not even know what that nexus point is per se, but if they eliminate a given Federation ship at a given time, the timeline will shift to something more to their liking. Nero et al go back. Spock, on the scene working for Nero's release, now must go back to stop him. Maybe he knows where he's going, maybe he doesn't. Somehow, Nero and Spock enter the timestream at the same instant (otherwise, whomever went back second wouldn't exist).

Nero's plan is to eliminate the Federation ship, the Kelvin. It seems to go according to plan; Kelvin destroyed. But the timestream hasn't changed as predicted (perhaps because Kirk, Jr. wasn't killed on the ship). The timeline's different (Kirk grows up entirely without a father and is a bit more of a deliquent because of it), but not the right kind of different for Nero and his cohorts.

So Nero goes back to eliminate Vulcan (maybe Vulcan is ascendent in the new timeline for some reason). Spock's trying to avert further damage without pulling a "Back to the Future" and ending his own existance in a paradox. Spock uses Kirk as his tool and his knowledge of SF protocol and his own psychology of the time to do so.

Nero's plans are f'd up. Nero buys the farm in climactic fashion. But the timeline's still fundumentally changed and now we can have sequals that, similar to Marvel's Ultimate line (or even the Mirror Universe), have the same role players but with different backstories: Re-boot via Re-imagining. No reset button.

Dan

I think this is pretty dead-on. Hopefully it won't be quite that predictable, but I imagine this is the jist of the plot and the film's purpose. If they are indeed re-imagining via reboot without completely negating everything that has gone before, I'm pretty sure I can learn to live with it, especially if the movie is a great one. I imagine Spock Prime will buy the farm somewhere towards the end too, and somehow I can't shake the feeling that Nero is indeed Spock's son. I think Saavik or the Romulan Commander from 'Enterprise Incident' are both good potential candidates for a mother. I would personally prefer Saavik only if she is established to be partially or Romulan, or better yet a Romulan raised as a Vulcan which does fly against contininuity but in that case I don't really care. The idea of Nero being the embodiment of Vulcan-Romulan reunification but also trying to prevent it from ever happening is very dramatically appealing, IMHO.

:rommie:
 
This is a theory. It's not too bad a theory. Would they bring back sexy Cheers or the ugly actress to play her older self?

But it's not a spoiler. A spoiler is a confirmed plot detail in a film or work of fiction. This forum is littered with false spoilers.
Theoretical Spoilers are a contradiction.

If I said, "Hey, I think Spock might be in the movie dancing in his Surrak class underwear," it's speculation.
If I said, "Spock's uncle Charles is in this movie", due to a leaked callsheet or an interview with a cast member, that is a spoiler. It gives information away about the film.

I have a strong belief that Spock's grandmother will turn into a little red wagon and save Christmas. Psst! Pass it on!
 
Seems like Nero is ending up being what Paramount always hoped B&B's Future Guy on ENTERPRISE would have been: a time-altering renegade bent on changing any and all history that suited his needs. But one with menace and a real face and personality.
 
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