Nemesis/Redemption connection?

[balls]

I was watching "Redemption Pt. 1" last night and I was struck by the scene where Picard visits Lursa and B'etor. They offer him tea. He drinks and leaves his cup behind. Would that be a possible event that provided the Romulans with Picard's DNA to create Shinzon? Obviously, there's been no on screen explanation how they came in possession of the DNA. I know that in "Unification" he was being held by the Romulans, so that would be another possibility. Do any of TNG novels touch on the DNA issue?

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Dear balls,
I think those are fine theories. No novels needed. That scoundrel Vash might have also sold them some. Mot might also have been a Romulan agent. The possibilities are numerous.

 

[Tosk]

I was watching "Redemption Pt. 1" last night and I was struck by the scene where Picard visits Lursa and B'etor. They offer him tea. He drinks and leaves his cup behind. Would that be a possible event that provided the Romulans with Picard's DNA to create Shinzon? Obviously, there's been no on screen explanation how they came in possession of the DNA. I know that in "Unification" he was being held by the Romulans, so that would be another possibility. Do any of TNG novels touch on the DNA issue?

Shinzon was created earlier than that, Nemesis was set only eleven years after Redemption.

 

[Kor]

Did NEM say how old Shinzon actually was? Maybe his growth was accelerated.

Kor

 

[Tosk]

Did NEM say how old Shinzon actually was? Maybe his growth was accelerated.

Kor

He was set to be accelerated at a later point, which never came (the fact that the activation date was ignored is why he is dying at an early age). Incidentally, he also spent close to ten actual years in the dilithium mines.

 

[thribs]

In the novels it’s implied his DNA was taken at Beverly’s wedding ceremony to Jack. One of the waiters was a undercover Romulan agent.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

In the novels it’s implied his DNA was taken at Beverly’s wedding ceremony to Jack. One of the waiters was a undercover Romulan agent.

Picard wasn't exactly important at that point. That's what always gets me about this nonsense. Must have been Future Guy's idea.

 

[thribs]

Picard wasn't exactly important at that point. That's what always gets me about this nonsense. Must have been Future Guy's idea.

It wasn’t just him though. He was getting other captain’s DNA as well.

 

[F. King Daniel]

My theory is that the Romulans learned Picard would become a somebody from Enterprise-C survivors and that's why he was targeted. No idea when they got the DNA to clone him though.

 

[Timo]

Nemesis actually features two known clones of Starfleet personnel: Picard's and Data's...

The project might have involved thousands of clones, of which hundreds turned out to be viable, and when the project was shelved, it was decided that making the hundreds do hard labor on Remus before perishing would be cheaper for the Empire than firing hundreds of disruptor rounds.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Paul Weaver]

No idea when they got the DNA to clone him though.

Waiter at Jack + Bev's wedding

 

[Mad Mike]

My theory is that the Romulans learned Picard would become a somebody from Enterprise-C survivors and that's why he was targeted. No idea when they got the DNA to clone him though.

Nice to hear that I'm not the only one that thinks this.

 

[David cgc]

Do any of TNG novels touch on the DNA issue?

"Death in Winter" says that the Romulans had a scheme to clone more than one Starfleet captain (at least four), and a Romulan spy got Picard's DNA at the Crushers' wedding. It was dumb luck (or skillful anticipation of rising stars by the Romulans) that one of their targets became a legendary captain, and one of their clones survived and led a coup.

 

[TrekMD]

Yep, that was some planning by the Romulans!