Nemesis Question
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It's been that way thruout history. British drinking wine from France when they hated the French or Colonists drinking Scotch during the Rev War etc. Just because you don't care for a culture doesn't mean you don't appreciate the things it may offer.
OR....
Worf has mellowed a bit in his "old age" & his relationship with Jadzia helpped a little toward that end perhaps.
Yeah, but according to Season 1, Riker's idea of porn is watching two scantily-clad holochicks play harps, so NC-17 just isn't what it used to be.
Personally, I think that a) We all know that Stuart Baird didn't actually care about Trek so sweating the color of Romulan ale is going to bring us more pain than joy; b) It could have been the bachelor party, or earlier at the reception, or just a general random statement because Worf has decided to embrace randomness; and c) He totally had it at the bachelor party.
Commander Riker hadn't gotten to the good part...yet.
I see my post on this Nemesis thread is still happenin', so I'm gonna ask another question about the film here instead of posting yet another thread on the movie.
Do you all think Janeway earned a cameo on Nemesis? Sure, she was lost in space for 7 years, but did it really pave a way for her to be in the movie? I'm sure it's been asked before but I'm watching the movie again out of boredom and the question came about during the scene
Do you all think Janeway earned a cameo on Nemesis? Sure, she was lost in space for 7 years, but did it really pave a way for her to be in the movie? I'm sure it's been asked before but I'm watching the movie again out of boredom and the question came about during the scene
For me, it felt badly out of place that Picard would suddenly have a multi-line conversation with some admiral, any admiral, and indicate familiarity and perhaps even friendship. Picard just isn't the type, and the story doesn't call for anything more than a token extra in that scene.
That aside, Janeway is an adequate character for this bit (and Mulgrew is good enough to make the bit part sufficiently emotional or whatever - in fact way too good to be wasted for stuff like this, alas). But there would have been many guests that would have gotten a warmer fan reception, I'm sure. The guest admiral really should have been Nechayev, a well-established foil for Picard, or tjhen Haden, the man who always supervised Picard's dealings with the Romulans in TNG.
Timo Saloniemi
That aside, Janeway is an adequate character for this bit (and Mulgrew is good enough to make the bit part sufficiently emotional or whatever - in fact way too good to be wasted for stuff like this, alas). But there would have been many guests that would have gotten a warmer fan reception, I'm sure. The guest admiral really should have been Nechayev, a well-established foil for Picard, or tjhen Haden, the man who always supervised Picard's dealings with the Romulans in TNG.
Timo Saloniemi
He certainly seems to have warmed to them by the end of the movie when he mentions how they fought with honour to Riker.
But it is possible that after the war ended the trade embargo was reinstated.
In the script for TWOK it describes Kirk and McCoy as becoming instantly drunk after one sip.
Also, I remember reading that the original script included references to Riker's BP and that was where Worf drank the Romulan Ale in heavy amounts. The novel includes the references to it.
Didn't he ever have conversations with other admirals? I think it was Janeway's fault that she made the conversation a bit "long", I agree with you that Picard isn't the type for this. It seems as though he tried to make the conversation as short as possible with his answers
It's not so much that the conversation was long, it's the cutesy crappy banter between Picard and Janeway. It just didn't seem in-character for either of them.
Cutesy? Seriously?
Cutesy banter? Out of Picard?
Now THAT is out of character -- heck, I doubt the guy could crack a joke in bed when getting all hot and bothered with (any) companion, he's so Stick-In-The-Mud.
Yet another reason to NOT watch this movie. *egads*
Cheers,
-CM-
Now THAT is out of character -- heck, I doubt the guy could crack a joke in bed when getting all hot and bothered with (any) companion, he's so Stick-In-The-Mud.
Yet another reason to NOT watch this movie. *egads*
Cheers,
-CM-
It's this part that really sticks out for me:
Wow, yeah, let's plug all the previous movies! (the shooting script had Janeway also mention "the evil Soran and that pesky Nexus")
It's this part that really sticks out for me:
Wow, yeah, let's plug all the previous movies! (the shooting script had Janeway also mention "the evil Soran and that pesky Nexus")
I loved the way Picard said, "Just lucky, Admiral."
It was practically dripping with disdain.
He might as well have said, "STFU you useless bint. Only reason why we're talking is because Starfleet couldn't put you behind bars, where you long, for the bad press. So tell me your piece and then piss off."
But, I guess the Janeway cameo was better than the So9 Former Borg Anonymous meeting.
Yeah, that would have been worse.
Yeah...
Surely he's jesting here, isn't he?
Yes? Please??
Cheers,
-CM-
Yes? Please??
Cheers,
-CM-
I wish I was. But, IIRC, they were going to have So9 and Picard meet as some-kindo-of former Borg kinship and Picard was talk with her to work out a problem... Or something. I really don't remember it clearly it's been so long.
I didn't mind the Janeway cameo. If it wasn't her, it would have been some nameless admiral giving Picard the order. So, why not give it to Janeway? Her line might have been silly, but, honestly, I would have taken her over some stick-up-their-butt admiral like we've gotten hundreds of times before.
