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NCC -1701 (TOS).....

Destroy the invader's base and try to take out the lone military asset in the area that was supporting it? A sound tactical response to an invasion, even if it is brutal.
But it let's the invaders know just how serious you are about defending what is yours.
 
THE PREDATOR (2018) was awful. PREDATOR was excellent.
One thing I love about the original is how well it establishes the characters in just a few minutes with the helicopter ride in country, and that the third act has next to no dialogue. It's propelled almost entirely by the visuals and the tension.

And the role reversal at the end is done beautifully. At the beginning, this team of the best-of-the-best special ops guys are spraying the jungle in vain, and in the end it's the predator put into the same position because of mud.
 
@Ricky Spanish noted this in one of his posts which is completely fair to me. Also, you forgot about Captain Klaa from ST V.

Yes, I agree. Which is why I'm hard pressed to give the Gorn the benefit of the doubt when the episode itself is very ambiguous as to their intentions, and that people basically buy the aggressor's stance whole cloth without any sort of doubt.

I must have missed that post. Thanks for pointing that out!

Captain Klaa... I remember him, but he was not a very memorable guy, to be honest. Kruge and Dukat? Definitely memorable.

(I didn't forget about Klaa, though. I've just been of the habit lately of just naming two examples for things, unless more are absolutely necessary at the time. I've found it saves my phone typing finger a bit of wear and tear. And some time, too. Though I probably should have added a 'like' or 'such as' before naming the first example to be more clear that I wasn't going to go through the entire list. Thanks for helping me remember I need to do that. :techman:)


Oh God, you KNOW what I meant! :p

Indeed I did. Just screwing with you. Got to slide in a few jokes and sarcasms once in a while. :biggrin:

(Though I probably should have used a laugh or smile emoticon to illustrate this. I'll try to remember to do that. :) )
 
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One thing I love about the original is how well it establishes the characters in just a few minutes with the helicopter ride in country, and that the third act has next to no dialogue. It's propelled almost entirely by the visuals and the tension.

And the role reversal at the end is done beautifully. At the beginning, this team of the best-of-the-best special ops guys are spraying the jungle in vain, and in the end it's the predator put into the same position because of mud.

Agreed! And the handshake in the beginning of the movie... best damned handshake EVER seen on screen.

In fact, there was an Honest Trailer about this movie years ago and he pointed out that half of the movie is staring at trees. And he's right!

But it actually doesn't feel or look boring. It actually enhances the whole experience. Genius!!!

(And you got to love some of the character establishing lines throughout the movie. "I ain't got time to bleed" is one I have actually used multiple times when I actually have been injured.)
 
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You've never seen PREDATOR???!!!

It's one of THE greatest action movies of all time! (I'd probably put it second only to DIE HARD.)

Can I ask why you've never seen it?

Those who haven't seen MAD MAX: FURY ROAD, BATTLE ROYALE, THE RAID: REDEMPTION, HARD-BOILED or (gasp) ALIENS may find them preferable to the first PREDATOR in the long run. I'm in the ''PREDATOR 2 is better than PREDATOR 1''-minority viewpoint myself....



One thing I love about the original is how well it establishes the characters in just a few minutes with the helicopter ride in country, and that the third act has next to no dialogue. It's propelled almost entirely by the visuals and the tension.

I feel the music is the strongest point throughout. Once all of Dutch's men were toast----which many of us guessed going in from the start---- I lost most of my interest. I never considered Elpedia Carrillo to be in serious danger as lone women rarely perish in movies like this. It's one of many similar films in which one male and one female get to survive after six others buy it, just like ALIENS but with different pacing. (After PREDATOR's five-minute ''payback'' sequence, it's mostly downhill from there.) So I liked PRED2 for its unpredictability and some of the acting. And I felt the characters were less thin overall.
But we digress....
 
I never considered Elpedia Carrillo to be in serious danger as lone women rarely perish in movies like this./QUOTE]

She's actually in the sequel in a brief "blink and you'll miss it scene". She's on one of the monitors in Gary Busey's trailer. It was meant to part of a debriefing video clip where she describes the events of the first movie, that Busey was to show Danny Glover that got cut out of the final picture.
 
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