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NBC's Awake premieres March 1

If I remember right, his previous/current partner is in both universes. In one he got promoted, in one he didn't.
 
Well, unlike Grimm, Awake is already advancing the mythos with the second episode.

Don't more people watch Grimm?

Grimm is on Fridays, which mean it can be much safer w/ the same numbers. Also, Grimm's numbers have stabilized but the jury is way out on Awake's trend lines.

Grimm's and Awake's chances for renewal.

I didn't care for the imposition of the conspiracy angle. I can't recall the last time I saw a conspiracy angle that didn't turn out to be idiotic (in the few cases where the show wasn't cancelled before we could learn anything anyway). Grimm doesn't have a conspiracy per se, it has a wider, secret universe to be revealed.

Maybe Awake will end up revealing that there are people who can travel easily between the two realities via their dreams or something like that, but I'm not counting on us getting to that point.
Here's something I'm confused about - why are the two universes so drastically different? Michael's partners are different. His superiors are different. The cases he's assigned are different (but interconnect). He had a solitary, continuous life before the accident. He knew who his partner was, he knew who is boss was, etc... Shouldn't those details from before the accident be the same in each universe now?

Maybe the two universes didn't diverge because of the accident. They've always existed, long before Michael was born, with differences being caused by whatever reasons at some point in their history. He's always lived in both realities, but it's not until now that he's become aware of that fact. Maybe everyone lives in two realities. Maybe everyone lives in an infinite number of realities. We don't know anything at this point.
 
How does time elapse in this show? Does he wake up on a tuesday with his wife go through out the day then go to sleep, wake up and its Tuesday again with his son goes through out the day, then wakes up Wednesday with his wife? Therefor he is living a longer period of time? He can't be spending a Tuesday with his wife then a Wednesday, etc.. with his son or he would be missing every other day in each reality which obviously is not happening.

It's unexplained 'mystical' logic that will throw viewers off. I myself find the show rather boring.
 
I assumed that when he sleeps, he dreams an entire day in one universe, so he can't tell which universe is real, as they seem equally real in time and experience.

I'm liking this show so far and plan to stick with it, at least for a little while. I'm wondering if main character is in a coma, or dying, ala the BBC's Life on Mars, and that both universes are a figment of his imagination. Jason Isaacs really makes it watchable for me; I think he's doing a wonderful job with the role.

The only thing that irks me slightly is that the wife appears to be about the same age as the son.
 
I have yet to watch the second episode but enjoyed the pilot on Hulu a lot more than I anticipated.

IMO the best case for this show would be a 13 episode run, like Harper's Island had a few years ago. That would avoid the filler while giving the writers time to tell their story and give it a proper ending. Of course that doesn't look to be the case, as Wilmer Valderrama (who I had no clue was still acting) claims the season finale will be mind-blowing:

http://io9.com/5891411/wilmer-valderrama-the-season-finale-of-awake-will-take-you-by-surprise
 
It's just her youthful looks: one criticism I keep reading is how she's too young-looking to be Isaacs' wife when she's only 10 years younger than him. Not such a big difference.
 
How does time elapse in this show? Does he wake up on a tuesday with his wife go through out the day then go to sleep, wake up and its Tuesday again with his son goes through out the day, then wakes up Wednesday with his wife? Therefor he is living a longer period of time? He can't be spending a Tuesday with his wife then a Wednesday, etc.. with his son or he would be missing every other day in each reality which obviously is not happening.

It's unexplained 'mystical' logic that will throw viewers off. I myself find the show rather boring.

Tuesday follows tuesday. It's not so hard to figure out.
 
It's just her youthful looks: one criticism I keep reading is how she's too young-looking to be Isaacs' wife when she's only 10 years younger than him. Not such a big difference.

She does look really young. She looks like she's in her early 20s, tops.

I hope this moves beyond the simple "investigation" plots and gets more into the big picture. I find the time with the psychiatrists more interesting than the individual cases he works on.
 
Caught up on the last two episodes and frankly I'm not too impressed--it has an intriguing idea but it is just another cop show with the same 'ol same 'ol overall and I'm burnt out on cop/lawyer/hospital dramas. I kinda was hoping this tv season would see a renaissance but pretty much every new show I've checked out turned out to be awful or stale--The Firm, OUAT, Alcatraz, Awake, The River(I nominate this as the absolute worst show of the season, The Secret Circle, Grimm). The only show that has been consistently entertaining has been RINGER. I still watch Vampire Diaries but after a strong first half of the season it returned in January with a string of really weak episodes barring "Better off Dead".
 
I'd say the closest to a "mold breaking" show this season is OUAT. It's fun and fairly light entertainment and not a cop show with a twist like most everything else.

Never even heard of Ringer.
 
I'd say the closest to a "mold breaking" show this season is OUAT. It's fun and fairly light entertainment and not a cop show with a twist like most everything else.
To me it feels like just another LOST wannabe. I won't deny that it has a unique premise and started out strong but I eventually bailed on it after a few episodes. The Storybrooke storyline stalled, the flashbacks for me weren't all that interesting and the romantic angst turned me off.
Never even heard of Ringer.
It is on the CW--a serialized show starring Sarah Michelle Gellar of Buffy fame who plays twin sisters--one of which assumes the other's identity and life and gets caught up in a web of intrigue she hadn't expected. For the most part it has been entertaining week in and week out--now whether it falls apart at the end remains to be seen but as someone who never cared for Buffy I love Gellar in the roles and the writing is pretty good.
 
Dylan Minette really is 15? I'm amazed, I thought he was a young-looking 20 year old (and he could be 20, he really doesn't look his age) because he's a very good actor.

That last episode was well written. I'm starting to warm up to this show now. The premise could easily become annoying, just a case-of-the-week, but so far they've been going beyond the merely expected.

So could the "conspiracy" be that the authorities are deliberately cultivating Britten's ability to see two (real) realities and therefore gain semi-omniscence? Are there more than two realities out there? Might Hannah and Rex meet again one day?

Ratings may have stabilized. Last Thurs: 1.6/4, 5.12M; the week before that, 1.6/4, 4.33M. So the demo (which is what matters) remained stable while the total number of viewers increased. On NBC, that might be good enough for renewal.
 
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^Yeah, I feel the same way. Granted, it's only been a few episodes, but I see myself sticking around for awhile to see how it goes. There's enough here to keep my interested so far.
 
So, now with the baby sitter, we have proof that the timeline split sometime before the accident by at least a number of years.

Also, what happens if he pulls an "all nighter"? Will one side now be a day off? What if he starts taking small naps each day?
 
Eh, I dunno about that most recent episode, it had too much of the standard broadcast approach. Did anyone not immediately realize that the racket Rex was upset about was his mom's? So predictable. And the whole moral-of-the-story about the babysitter's sad fate being tied into Michael's parental responsibilities - sappy. This is the kind of tired writing that makes broadcast so intolerable to me anymore.

There's no proof the timeline ever "split." This may not be a time travel show. It could be a hallucination, a dream, or Michael realizing he's always lived in two realities, from the day he was born.

Or to put it differently, maybe the timeline "split" at the moment of the Big Bang. We don't even know that there are only two realities, only that Michael is perceiving two realities (if that's even what's happening.)

It's doubtful we'll ever get an answer, since ratings dropped 25% and the only way this show was going to survive was if the ratings held stable from last week. Total number of viewers was stable, but the demo, which is what matters, dropped. This show is appealing to too old a viewership.

Even NBC can't tolerate ratings that low. Most likely, they won't yank it before the end of the season, but there will be no S2.
 
There's no proof the timeline ever "split."
True, but up until now we had no proof that it didn't split with the accident.
This may not be a time travel show.
Nobody said it was a time travel show.
It could be a hallucination, a dream, or Michael realizing he's always lived in two realities, from the day he was born.
Well duh. That doesn't belay the fact that the audience is being presented with two versions of events, two "timelines" if you will.
Or to put it differently, maybe the timeline "split" at the moment of the Big Bang. We don't even know that there are only two realities, only that Michael is perceiving two realities (if that's even what's happening.)
Um, what???
Of course he is perceiving 2 realities, we've seen it. The question is whether either or both of them are real.
 
All you're doing is reiterating what I've already said. :rommie: We don't actually know anything, including that the timeline "split," as you incorrectly stated in your post. But I know you have a very fragile ego, so I'll just let it go...
 
Split timeline would suggest that he is jumping between two parallel earths.

As if both worlds are equally real.

Dude could just be dreaming?

So one earth is false and one is real.

Or in the life on Mars case, he's in a coma and both worlds are dreams.

Both worlds are equally unreal.

It was he who was fucked up by the accident, and when his wife or his son is visiting this lad in the hospital, talking to him, in his coma, that is the world he thinks that he is living in... denying the reality that his mortality is just about fucking nigh by shifting the death like in a cosmic game of three card monte.

Three card full monte.

I saw that yesterday?

Where the hell did that happen?

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