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NBC's 2010/2011 schedule

^With Lost, 24 and Heroes ending that's another two and a quarter hours of TV a week that won't be replaced for me.

It would take something huge to get me to watch a new show now - and by 'huge' I mean 'has the words Star and Trek' in the title.
 
Well, the networks are a favorite whipping boy around here - and they certainly deserve criticism in some instances - but I don't think the aggregate quality of network television is any lower than it was in decades past, although a little more variety would be nice. The steady drop-off in audience levels is almost entirely due to new technologies and greater choice leading to a more fragmented market.
 
^I don't recall going through such an extended period of there being absolutely nothing new that appeals to me.

There's more creativity in your average YouTube video these days than any of these shows. It's like they went on TV Tropes and copy/pasted all of their characters out of that.
 
I think I'll give The Event a shot to fill the void left by Lost and the poorly-executed FlashForward. And if it fails miserably and gets the early cancellation, short-term commitment!

Outlaw seems like it could be good but there needs to be some sort of hook to get me to watch another lawyer, doctor or cop drama. Life, The Mentalist and Shark had it. Not sure if Outlaw has it.
 
NBC and everyone else can quit complaining about piracy and people skipping ads on their DVRs. The real reason TV audiences are dropping is because everything they come up with is utter crap.
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Yep. Here's my prediction: although it will be pricey, Terra Nova will be a big-ass hit and will prove to be a much smarter approach than going cheap/vanilla and expecting anyone to care. Shows fail because they look like every other show that also failed. People can't tell the difference between all these shows! Bad as it was, Heroes at least was bad it its own unique way. The upcoming pilot season is shaping up to be even bigger carnage than ever.

The steady drop-off in audience levels is almost entirely due to new technologies and greater choice leading to a more fragmented market.
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It's due to competition from cable. New technologies aren't having much impact yet. But why is cable luring audiences away? Because even if you just watch the ads for shows like Breaking Bad and Mad Men, you get a strong impression of something unique, not like everything else. Although I don't watch USA much, they also do a nice job of presenting shows with identifiable character, not just a big grey undifferentiated blob of sameness, which is what the networks have become.

By "playing it safe," the networks are dooming themselves. CBS is the only network for which cowardice works as a strategy and even for them, the clock is ticking as their audience gets ever older and out of the demo that advertisers want.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
It's due to competition from cable. New technologies aren't having much impact yet. But why is cable luring audiences away? Because even if you just watch the ads for shows like Breaking Bad and Mad Men, you get a strong impression of something unique, not like everything else. Although I don't watch USA much, they also do a nice job of presenting shows with identifiable character, not just a big grey undifferentiated blob of sameness, which is what the networks have become.

By "playing it safe," the networks are dooming themselves. CBS is the only network for which cowardice works as a strategy and even for them, the clock is ticking as their audience gets ever older and out of the demo that advertisers want.
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Competition from cable - and other entertainment options - is what I was referring to when I said "greater choice". And by "new technologies" I was referring not only to things like DVR, but also to gaming and the internet/social networking as alternative entertainment pursuits that compete with television for people's time.

Pound for pound the quality of network shows is no worse than in the past in my opinion, but you're right that they need to strive to stand out more because of increased competition across the entertainment landscape. The trick, though, isn't just coming up with shows that are different and have a strong identity, but coming up with shows like that that are also accessible and have a clear hook. That's a potential problem for The Event - it may well be too murky to attract and keep a big enough audience to survive.
 
Monday
My prediction all 3 cancelled or at the least will have bottom tanked ratings...

Chuck will probably kill Monday night before it started and could only improve it's chances if it had a strong lead in. The other two will never get going against already strong FOX/CBS/ABC monday night shows.


Tuesday
Respectable but nothing else and both shows should survive though expect year to year audience erosion.


Wednesday
8pm on that night is wide open enough for a semi hit here and while Law & Order: Special Victims Unit should do decent work, expect a drop off in the 9pm slot like when tested there in fall 2009. The new Law & Order will probably be the biggest hit for the season for NBC.


Thursday
30 Rock will get a decent demo but will erode from one year ago and The Office will be the best hit on the night but will drop to new lows. Rest of the night will sink badly most likely.


Friday
Nothing special and I think NBC made a huge mistake canning Law & Order which was doing very decent work on this night before it got moved in 2010 mid season.


Sunday
NFL a big yay but after that so/so ratings.
 
That's a potential problem for The Event - it may well be too murky to attract and keep a big enough audience to survive.
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From the trailer and brief description, it shouldn't be hard: young guy's fiance vanishes. To find her, he must wade through a big conspiracy. What is it? Has something to do with 97 prisoners - why are they captive? Where? How can they help him?

That's really all they need. Give us a nice guy in trouble and concrete details about the creepy mystery with the implication that solving it will take him closer to a solution. That should string the audience along for a while...
 
Maab of the Ten Tribes said:
I just read that Parks and Recreation is getting pushed back to be a mid-season replacement. That means it will be 2011 before any new episodes air. That just sucks.

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/...-benches-parks-recreation/?xid=rss-topstories
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Yeah that does suck. I thought I read somewhere that because of the pregnancy, it might have been one of the first shows to come back. This season has been awesome, and I've even read some opinions (And I agree with it even though I liked the first season) that this was the come back show of the new season.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
Out Of My Vulcan Mind said:
There are new - much better - previews up on NBC.com now. Here's the preview for The Cape.
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So...basically Batman without any edge or style. :rommie:

#1 - LA is absolutely the wrong place to set this story. We have so many lovely decaying urban rustbelt cities like Cleveland and Detroit that would work so much better! I'm sick of half the shows being set in LA and the other half in "Seattle" (ie Vancouver).
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They should set it in Buffalo. Seriously. Last summer, when my dad & I were on a crosscountry road trip, we passed through Buffalo on the way to Niagara Falls, around twilight hours I believe. When I looked at the downtown skyline from the highway, all I could think was, "Man, that looks like the perfect setting for a dark TV series." At first, I was thinking it would be a cable series about crime solving vampires, but I think The Cape would work there too.

I'm not sure I like that title, The Cape. I keep thinking it should be a prime-time soap opera set in New England. It's like The O.C. with chowDAH!:p
 
Buffalo, it is! :bolian: And the main character should be an angry tea-bagger type who channels his incohate rage into misguided vigilante antics. He may honestly think he's "doing it for the good of his family" but there should be enough dysfunction in the guy that the audience feels a little weird rooting for him. His wife and kids should feel conflicted because they miss him but are also kinda glad he's gone...

That would be very timely but of course no network would have the guts to touch something like that, not even if the main character was kinda a good guy in some ways. No, all we get is polyanna pablum. :p
 
If it's set in Buffalo, he can also do stuff to visiting NFL teams to help his beloved Bills win, because they need all the help they can get!
 
HOLD IT! I got it!!!! :eek:

We need a show about a sports fan who goes insane and starts committing vigilante crimes in order to get his team to win!
 
^ Well we already had the movie The Fan, about a psychopath who does things to help his favorite player... like kill someone else on the team, or kidnap his son and say he's gonna die if he doesn't hit a home run. :p
 
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