Kirk's uniform looks so awesome in green.
Have you seen a non color faded copy of The Omega Glory viewmaster reels? It shows the green shirts in all their proper color glory.
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Have you seen a non color faded copy of The Omega Glory viewmaster reels? It shows the green shirts in all their proper color glory.
No, but HD has satisfied my love for the true colors of the uniform. Some can't understand common sense from the sh*tty NTSC, but Kirk's dress uniform was green, other tunics were green, it shouldn't make sense his duty tunic would be... YELLOW??? LOL. It's not even gold, that was something spoken on a dead-cult spinoff.
The "smoking gun" as it were, is that "The Executive" (who, by GLW's account, was in a position to hire & fire people on the show AND had creative input into the storylines - a short list of people) gave her a polished stone by way of apology. Inside Star Trek reveals that one of GR's big hobbies was polishing stones.
Oh, and apparently GLW was personally acquainted with The Exec's girlfriend, as well. Hmm... Now where could she have met and become acquainted with the woman he was involved with?
Oh, and apparently GLW was personally acquainted with The Exec's girlfriend, as well. Hmm... Now where could she have met and become acquainted with the woman he was involved with?
No possible way there could be other Executives who had those responsibilities shared within the core and have a girlfriend? Is there other accounts of what happened?
This has become the ugliest of thread drifts.
Anymore apparent sexual assaults from the cast and crew of Star Trek anyone else would like to include on this thread???
This has become the ugliest of thread drifts.
Anymore apparent sexual assaults from the cast and crew of Star Trek anyone else would like to include on this thread???
Source?
Guilty until proven innocent, I guess...
I don't have Inside Star Trek anymore, but I seem to recall Solow and Justman writing that GLW had put a cloud of suspicion over them and a few others, and left it hanging there for an unacceptably long period of time. They didn't think any part of her phrasing clarified the matter of who did it.
It's like I said: Grace was wronged, and she wanted to benefit from publishing her dramatic personal story, but she didn't want to get into a big, ugly public fight. Maybe she didn't want to risk getting sued for libel long after she could possibly prove in court what had happened. I don't know. But Solow and Justman, if I recall, felt they got a raw deal in her telling due to its vagueness.
It's like I said: Grace was wronged, and she wanted to benefit from publishing her dramatic personal story, but she didn't want to get into a big, ugly public fight. Maybe she didn't want to risk getting sued for libel long after she could possibly prove in court what had happened. I don't know. But Solow and Justman, if I recall, felt they got a raw deal in her telling due to its vagueness.
You're remembering incorrectly here. Whitney didn't speak about her sexual assault until her memoir, My Longest Trek, which was published in 1998 (Inside Star Trek was published in 1996).
If Solow or Justman had anything to say in response to Whitney's memoir, I haven't seen it.
But I'm pretty sure I read about it in Solow/Justman. They went into the thing about Gene and Majel polishing stones, and whatnot. Unless it wasn't them and I read it somewhere else, later blending it in my memory. How sure are we that she hadn't gone public prior to her book?
Have you seen a non color faded copy of The Omega Glory viewmaster reels? It shows the green shirts in all their proper color glory.
Yep I've still got mine somewhere!
JB
It never even occurred to me that Roddenberry might have been GLW's assailant until I read the detail of her assailant giving her a gift of a polished stone by way of apology, and was then reminded of GR's hobby of polishing stones. Yes, it's circumstantial evidence, but it's also WAY too specific of a detail not to raise some doubts, IMO. So yeah, that convinced me.
But of course we'll never know the real story.
I'd say that they had reason to be upset. GLW was in between a rock and a hard place when it came to telling her story, though.
They did revise the book for the paperback edition that was released in 1997. That's the one I have, and they definitely talk about GR's hobby of polishing stones and giving them as gifts.
I believe that the story of Whitney's assault was first revealed in Shatner's Star Trek Memories book, which was first published in October of 1993, according to Memory Alpha. Whitney was upset that Shatner had gotten some details wrong, such as referring to multiple assaults instead of the one incident.
Well, I did read Star Trek Memories as well as Inside Star Trek. Which info I got from where, it's hard to say now.
I believe the first time they were mentioned in print was Shatner's Star Trek Memories, in 1993, but Whitney isn't directly quoted. I believe the first time she actually recounted the incident was in her memoir, in which she disputes much of what appears in the Shatner book regarding her.
Roddenberry's hobby of polishing stones is mentioned twice in the Solow/Justman book. It actually describes Gene and Eileen Roddenberry being the ones who polished stones:
The book also reproduces a memo from the period (probably taken from the UCLA collections, which Solow and Justman consulted) in which the hobby is jokingly mentioned:
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That was me, I believe. The actual archive of STARLOG is complete, I think, at https://archive.org/details/starlogmagazine. What's incomplete is the index at Memory Alpha [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starlog_(magazine)], which makes finding an interview somewhat difficult after issue #238.
I don't own the revised version, but from what I've read from it, I think the revisions were minor. The bits about Roddenberry's hobby can be found in the first edition.
Roddenberry created Star Trek, but that doesn't give him a pass for his transgressions as a human being. The man was a known liar, intellectual thief, drug user and possible rapist.
I don't know about you, but because I like Star Trek doesn't excuse the things Roddenberry did...
Bill Theiss was quite informative of the fabrics and materials when making the tunics. I've noticed the uniforms shimmer in medium shots; there was details which were done I can fully appreciate. A work of art Star Trek was. NBC Execs' minds were blown away of what they were seeing on their projectors.
That's basically it. We don't know the real story. We don't even know if it's true. All we have are personal accounts of things that may or may not have happened, so we choose to side with one person and against another. Cases like these are always the ugliest because they can make a victim even more of a victim or forever throw suspicion on someone.
And it's not going to stop some members' bias against Gene Roddenberry.
You can't possibly know that as a fact.
Well said. I can't argue with that.
Amen. Thread should be retitled and the original post deleted!
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