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NBC and the 21 Pilots

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So, here are the 21 shows NBC has ordered to pilot. What do you think has a chance?

  • 7th Precinct (Ron Moore). World ruled by magic, not science (drama, pilot).
  • Playboy (Chad Hodge). Set in the 1960s, the drama takes a look at the lives of Playboy bunnies (drama, pilot).
  • Smash (Steven Spielberg, Neil Meron, Craig Zadan, Darryl Frank, Justin Falvey, Theresa Rebeck). Follows a cross-section of characters who come together for the exhilarating ride of putting on a Broadway musical (drama, pilot).
  • Wonder Woman (David E. Kelley). A reboot of the superhero tale that’s a serious, non-campy take on the DC Comics character (drama, pilot).
  • Special investigations L.A. (Stephen Gaghan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). In the style of Traffic, the drama is set in the world of crime, law enforcement, and politics in modern-day L.A. (drama, pilot).
  • Grimm (Jim Kouf, David Greenwalt). Dark but fantastical cop drama about a world in which characters inspired by Grimm’s Fairy Tales exist (drama, pilot).
  • Prime Suspect (Alexandra Cunningham, Sarah Aubrey, Peter Berg). Series adaptation of the British miniseries (drama, pilot).
  • REM (Kyle Killen). A procedural hybrid which follows the simultaneous and parallel lives of a detective who can not let go of any aspect of his fractured family after a horrible car accident (drama, pilot).
  • The Crossing (Josh Brand, Peter Horton). In the aftermath of a difficult war, a Civil War soldier crosses the country and settles into a complicated town where he is welcomed as its savior — whether he likes it or not (drama, pilot).
  • Kari Lizer project (Kari Lizer). A multi-camera workplace comedy about a relationship-challenged woman who, with the help of her co-workers, guides people through unexpected career transitions and downsizing (comedy, pilot).
  • Free Agents (John Enbom, Karey Burke, Todd Holland). Based on the UK format, this single camera comedy looks at the attraction between two quirky co-workers who are both on the rebound (comedy, pilot).
  • Dan Goor project (Dan Goor, Gail Berman, Lloyd Braun). A young doctor joins his parents’ medical practice and spends as much time tending to his family as to his patients (comedy, pilot).
  • Lovelives (Chris Sheridan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). A sophisticated multi-camera comedy about two couples and their challenges of love and infidelity (comedy, pilot).
  • I Hate that I Love You (Jhoni Marchinko). Focuses on a straight couple that introduces two of its lesbian friends to one another – which results in instant attraction and a pregnancy (comedy, pilot).
  • Are you there, Vodka? It’s me, Chelsea (Chelsea Handler, Tom Werner, Dottie Dartland Zicklin, Julie Larsen). Inspired by Handler’s best-selling memoir that will focus on the lives of a group of 20-somethings who live and work together with a very outspoken young woman (comedy, pilot).
  • Brave New World (Peter Tolan, Michael Wimer). This single-camera workplace comedy follows a group of unusual characters at Pilgrim Village, a theme park that specializes in recreations of New England in 1647 (comedy, pilot).
  • Ghost Angeles (Henry Alonzo Myers, Josh Schwartz) A young woman speaks to dead people who help her (comedy, pilot).
  • My Life as an Experiment (Cathy Yuspa, Josh Goldsmith, Jack Black). A single-camera comedy about a magazine writer who immerses himself and his family in his unusual situations for his stories, which always reflect back on his marriage. It’s based on the book by (former EW writer!) A.J. Jacobs. (comedy, pilot).
  • Parham/St. Claire project (Lennon Parham, Jessica St. Clair). A woman and her new live-in boyfriend find themselves taking in her distraught and pushy best girlfriend who ends up on their doorstep after a divorce (comedy, pilot).
  • Bent (Ted Quill). Single-camera comedy about a recently divorced Type A single mom who tries hard not to fall for the sexy surfer dude contractor she hires to re-do her kitchen (comedy, pilot).
  • Untitled Emily Spivey project (Emily Spivey). A cast-contingent project about parenthood through the POV of an acerbic working mom (comedy, pilot)
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What has a chance? How many hours will they have to fill in the fall? :lol:

Playboy really doesn't belong on network TV. That needs to be on cable.
 
As much as I'd like the high concept stuff like 7th Precinct and that post-Civil War show to work out, that will not happen.

Instead a bunch of those sit-com-y shows about relationships and stuff will work, because they're cheaper to make, and have a larger female audience.

Wonder Woman might make it on sheer name recognition, for a season or so though.
 
The only ones that looked interesting to me are The Crossing (the Civil War one) and Brave New World (about the 1647 theme park). I guess you can tell I'm a history nerd. :lol:

But really so many of these could go either way, depending on the cast and style of humor. If you described The Office or Modern Family in one sentence they would sound terribly boring or silly, when they are actually very funny. So I guess we'll see what happens - I'm willing to give almost anything besides formulaic police procedurals a fair shot.
 
What the hell is it with these single-camera things now? Next thing they're gonna tell us is all the single-cameras are "shakey cams".

A single-camera, shakey cam, reality TV drama -- you know that shit is coming.
 
7th Precinct (Ron Moore). World ruled by magic, not science (drama, pilot). :rolleyes:

Playboy (Chad Hodge). Set in the 1960s, the drama takes a look at the lives of Playboy bunnies (drama, pilot). :rolleyes:

Smash (Steven Spielberg, Neil Meron, Craig Zadan, Darryl Frank, Justin Falvey, Theresa Rebeck). Follows a cross-section of characters who come together for the exhilarating ride of putting on a Broadway musical (drama, pilot). :wtf:

Wonder Woman (David E. Kelley). A reboot of the superhero tale that’s a serious, non-campy take on the DC Comics character (drama, pilot). :techman: I like that it's not going to be campy.

Special Investigations L.A. (Stephen Gaghan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). In the style of Traffic, the drama is set in the world of crime, law enforcement, and politics in modern-day L.A. (drama, pilot). :techman: Gritty potential.

Grimm (Jim Kouf, David Greenwalt). Dark but fantastical cop drama about a world in which characters inspired by Grimm’s Fairy Tales exist (drama, pilot). :wtf:

Prime Suspect (Alexandra Cunningham, Sarah Aubrey, Peter Berg). Series adaptation of the British miniseries (drama, pilot). :techman: I think it has a shot.

REM (Kyle Killen). A procedural hybrid which follows the simultaneous and parallel lives of a detective who can not let go of any aspect of his fractured family after a horrible car accident (drama, pilot). :shrug: "Rescue Me" redux?

The Crossing (Josh Brand, Peter Horton). In the aftermath of a difficult war, a Civil War soldier crosses the country and settles into a complicated town where he is welcomed as its savior — whether he likes it or not (drama, pilot). :shrug:Um, modern day or 19th century?

Kari Lizer Project (Kari Lizer). A multi-camera workplace comedy about a relationship-challenged woman who, with the help of her co-workers, guides people through unexpected career transitions and downsizing (comedy, pilot). :wtf: Ah yes, the hilarious antics of joblessness.

Free Agents (John Enbom, Karey Burke, Todd Holland). Based on the UK format, this single camera comedy looks at the attraction between two quirky co-workers who are both on the rebound (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes:

Dan Goor Project (Dan Goor, Gail Berman, Lloyd Braun). A young doctor joins his parents’ medical practice and spends as much time tending to his family as to his patients (comedy, pilot). :shrug:

Lovelives (Chris Sheridan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). A sophisticated multi-camera comedy about two couples and their challenges of love and infidelity (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes:

I Hate That I Love You (Jhoni Marchinko). Focuses on a straight couple that introduces two of its lesbian friends to one another – which results in instant attraction and a pregnancy (comedy, pilot).

Are you there, Vodka? It’s me, Chelsea (Chelsea Handler, Tom Werner, Dottie Dartland Zicklin, Julie Larsen). Inspired by Handler’s best-selling memoir that will focus on the lives of a group of 20-somethings who live and work together with a very outspoken young woman (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes:

Brave New World (Peter Tolan, Michael Wimer). This single-camera workplace comedy follows a group of unusual characters at Pilgrim Village, a theme park that specializes in re-creations of New England in 1647 (comedy, pilot). :wtf:

Ghost Angeles (Henry Alonzo Myers, Josh Schwartz) A young woman speaks to dead people who help her (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes: Ghost Whisperer meets Ghostbusters.

My Life As An Experiment (Cathy Yuspa, Josh Goldsmith, Jack Black). A single-camera comedy about a magazine writer who immerses himself and his family in his unusual situations for his stories, which always reflect back on his marriage. It’s based on the book by (former EW writer!) A.J. Jacobs. (comedy, pilot). :p

Parham/St. Claire Project (Lennon Parham, Jessica St. Clair). A woman and her new live-in boyfriend find themselves taking in her distraught and pushy best girlfriend who ends up on their doorstep after a divorce (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes: Nothing creates hilarity like an obnoxious third wheel.

Bent (Ted Quill). Single-camera comedy about a recently divorced Type A single mom who tries hard not to fall for the sexy surfer dude contractor she hires to re-do her kitchen (comedy, pilot). :rolleyes: It's so nice to have a dude around the house.

Untitled Emily Spivey project (Emily Spivey). A cast-contingent project about parenthood through the POV of an acerbic working mom (comedy, pilot). :p Oh, yeah, nothing is more fun than watching an acid-tongued mother raising kids to be dysfunctional.
 
I'm rooting for all the sf/f and historical shows, plus Brave New World. I have no frakkin' clue what does or doesn't have a chance - other than knowing that certain topics inherently interest me and others don't, I can't predict the quality of a show based on a paragraph.
 
What the hell is it with these single-camera things now? Next thing they're gonna tell us is all the single-cameras are "shakey cams".

:confused:

You've never heard of single-camera comedies? Single-camera photography has nothing to do with "shakey cams."

I can't say I have high expectations for any of these. Despite being a fan of Ron Moore, the idea of a magic-based series doesn't interest me. And if the implication of the title, which suggests a procedural format, holds true, it downright bores me.

The Crossing sounds intriguing, but it also sounds expensive. If it makes it to being a regular series, I doubt it will last long, this being NBC.
 
What the hell is it with these single-camera things now? Next thing they're gonna tell us is all the single-cameras are "shakey cams".

:confused:

You've never heard of single-camera comedies? Single-camera photography has nothing to do with "shakey cams."

Indeed. I tend to avoid multi-camera sitcoms, myself. They just seem to lack the snappiness and pacing of single-camera comedies.

That said, none of the comedies sound terribly interesting. The Crossing, Wonder Woman, and (mostly due to Ron Moore) 7th Precinct all sound like they could be okay, though.
 
I'm rooting for all the sf/f and historical shows, plus Brave New World. I have no frakkin' clue what does or doesn't have a chance - other than knowing that certain topics inherently interest me and others don't, I can't predict the quality of a show based on a paragraph.

I agree with pretty much all that sentiment. It really boils down to execution which is hard to predict. That said, I think that Playboy show could be interesting if they can really hit that 60's vibe.
 
Some of my thoughts and musings about the show Ideas:).
I deleted most of the comedies from the list because I didint have really anything to say about those:confused:

17th Precinct (Ron Moore). World ruled by magic, not science (drama, pilot).
Could be interesting..and considering Moores track record with TV, it will be propably very well written. Though, I doubt he can beat BSG. Must wait and see..from the DVD.

Playboy (Chad Hodge). Set in the 1960s, the drama takes a look at the lives of Playboy bunnies (drama, pilot).
I am pretty sure that the 60s setting is inspired by the success of Mad Men. I doubt it will be as good, though.
Though, Im sure women in thos Playboy bunny outfits will bring some male audience to watch this

Smash (Steven Spielberg, Neil Meron, Craig Zadan, Darryl Frank, Justin Falvey, Theresa Rebeck). Follows a cross-section of characters who come together for the exhilarating ride of putting on a Broadway musical (drama, pilot).
Eh...whaaaaaat!?!? Sounds bizarre and goofy at the same time. Though, there is Spielberg involved..so one never knows...

Wonder Woman (David E. Kelley). A reboot of the superhero tale that’s a serious, non-campy take on the DC Comics character (drama, pilot).
I hope this succeeds because I am so big fan of the character. Most of the Kelleys shows have been relativly good quality..so I expect we see good writing.
I think casting will also rule if this will fail or not.

Special Investigations L.A. (Stephen Gaghan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). In the style of Traffic, the drama is set in the world of crime, law enforcement, and politics in modern-day L.A. (drama, pilot).
Good be good...or just yet another damn cop show.

Grimm (Jim Kouf, David Greenwalt). Dark but fantastical cop drama about a world in which characters inspired by Grimm’s Fairy Tales exist (drama, pilot).
Hmm..curious. This might actually work.
The ideas seems pretty orginal, at least

Prime Suspect (Alexandra Cunningham, Sarah Aubrey, Peter Berg). Series adaptation of the British miniseries (drama, pilot).
Why this needs a remake?!?
The orgininal UK one is excellent, gritty and realistic crim/drama series:techman:..plus it had Helen Mirren on the lead role.
I doubt they can get anywhere near..not beat the orginal.
The American version will be most likely shortened(the orginals episodes are about 100 minutes each), stupified and sexed-up version with pretty actors:rolleyes:
Pretty sure this will fail.


REM (Kyle Killen). A procedural hybrid which follows the simultaneous and parallel lives of a detective who can not let go of any aspect of his fractured family after a horrible car accident (drama, pilot).
Been there..done that?

The Crossing (Josh Brand, Peter Horton). In the aftermath of a difficult war, a Civil War soldier crosses the country and settles into a complicated town where he is welcomed as its savior — whether he likes it or not (drama, pilot).
If this is set to after the American Civil War, I would certainly interested of watching this, since I find that time of history to be very interesting

Kari Lizer Project (Kari Lizer). A multi-camera workplace comedy about a relationship-challenged woman who, with the help of her co-workers, guides people through unexpected career transitions and downsizing (comedy, pilot).
Zzzz..we have plenty of comedies allready.

Free Agents (John Enbom, Karey Burke, Todd Holland). Based on the UK format, this single camera comedy looks at the attraction between two quirky co-workers who are both on the rebound (comedy, pilot).
Nothing to say about this one really..seems like a workplace comedy of ordinary kind.

Dan Goor Project (Dan Goor, Gail Berman, Lloyd Braun). A young doctor joins his parents’ medical practice and spends as much time tending to his family as to his patients (comedy, pilot).
Havent we had this also before?

Brave New World (Peter Tolan, Michael Wimer). This single-camera workplace comedy follows a group of unusual characters at Pilgrim Village, a theme park that specializes in re-creations of New England in 1647 (comedy, pilot). :wtf:
Sounds quirky enough to work...but also quite stupid at the same time. Nothing much to add, really..

Ghost Angeles (Henry Alonzo Myers, Josh Schwartz) A young woman speaks to dead people who help her (comedy, pilot).
Sounds like a parody version of Medium or Ghost Whisperer.
Why do Ghosts speak to women only on TV?!?
How about a comedy about a guy, whos is trying to get some..but is haunted by the ghost of her ex-gf/wife? Just asking..
 
I am going to guess that from a PR/studio executive POV that either 17th Precinct or Grimm will get picked up, but not both. The network will be too afraid that the public won't know the difference between the two, thus hurting the chances of both to succeed. Network's are silly that way.
 
The only three that I am curious about are 17th Precinct, Grimm and Wonder Woman.
 
I can't say I have high expectations for any of these. Despite being a fan of Ron Moore, the idea of a magic-based series doesn't interest me. And if the implication of the title, which suggests a procedural format, holds true, it downright bores me.

They might be making the same mistake I've seen before, trying to take a cop/lawyer/doctor show format and translate it to sci fi or fantasy setting. Cop, lawyer and doctor shows work because they have rules that make sense in the real world, and that the audience can identify with. But try to create sci fi medical procedures or fantasy police procedures, and you sever that connection.

However, Pushing Daisies successfully combined the PI format with fantasy by focusing on the characters, the amazing visuals, and the puzzles in each episode. (The reason I think it failed was that it was too sweet - there wasn't enough dramatic tension.) So I'll check out any sci fi doctor show or fantasy cop show or whatever that comes down the pike.

I think that Playboy show could be interesting if they can really hit that 60's vibe.

It could be great but it really belongs on AMC. I'm skeptical NBC has the guts to do that topic right, and they have the FCC to contend with.
 
Most of those sound rather lame and unimaginative. In fact, at least 2 or 3 of them sound like they could be a single show. And that Playboy show looks like it could belong on HBO, right alongside Boardwalk Empire.
 
They might be making the same mistake I've seen before, trying to take a cop/lawyer/doctor show format and translate it to sci fi or fantasy setting. Cop, lawyer and doctor shows work because they have rules that make sense in the real world, and that the audience can identify with. But try to create sci fi medical procedures or fantasy police procedures, and you sever that connection.
The X-Files is one of the most popular and successful sci-fi shows in TV history and it took a cop show format and merged it with sci-fi. The cop show format makes for a sturdy and easily understood framework for a TV show and there have been enough shows and movies about cops and/or government agents investigating sci-fi/fantasy elements that it's something audiences can engage with very easily if you get it right.
 
I was working on a cops in space idea...it was more like Baywatch in space. :lol: :borg:
 
My thoughts on the 21 pilots:

7th Precinct (Ron Moore). World ruled by magic, not science (drama, pilot): I like Ron Moore. He did a great job on DS9, Carnivale, and BSG. I hope this one gets picked up.

Playboy (Chad Hodge). Set in the 1960s, the drama takes a look at the lives of Playboy bunnies (drama, pilot): Sounds more like something AMC or especially HBO would do. Doubt it'll be any good. But I bet the network will pick it up and people will like it. lol.

Smash (Steven Spielberg, Neil Meron, Craig Zadan, Darryl Frank, Justin Falvey, Theresa Rebeck). Follows a cross-section of characters who come together for the exhilarating ride of putting on a Broadway musical (drama, pilot): UGH. Glee Pt. 2. No thanks. Don't like Glee.

Wonder Woman (David E. Kelley). A reboot of the superhero tale that’s a serious, non-campy take on the DC Comics character (drama, pilot): IF the rumors that are going around about this are true, than this is going to be awful. Rumors: Diana likes pop music, has sleepovers, etc. Ugh. I wish they'd do this one right, but come on, its David E. Kelly. Its going to be a soap.

Special investigations L.A. (Stephen Gaghan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). In the style of Traffic, the drama is set in the world of crime, law enforcement, and politics in modern-day L.A. (drama, pilot): Hmm. Sounds like all the other grim and gritty cop shows out now (Chicago Code, Southland). No thanks.

Grimm (Jim Kouf, David Greenwalt). Dark but fantastical cop drama about a world in which characters inspired by Grimm’s Fairy Tales exist (drama, pilot): Sounds interesting, but I agree with the poster that says that NBC will either pick this up or 7th Precinct. I think this is more likely because most likely it'll be lighter in tone. IF I had to pick, I'd like to see 7th Precinct over this. Though, in a perfect world, I'd like to see both. lol.

Prime Suspect (Alexandra Cunningham, Sarah Aubrey, Peter Berg). Series adaptation of the British miniseries (drama, pilot): What was the British miniseries about? Never heard of it.


REM (Kyle Killen). A procedural hybrid which follows the simultaneous and parallel lives of a detective who can not let go of any aspect of his fractured family after a horrible car accident (drama, pilot): Hmm. Might be good?

The Crossing (Josh Brand, Peter Horton). In the aftermath of a difficult war, a Civil War soldier crosses the country and settles into a complicated town where he is welcomed as its savior — whether he likes it or not (drama, pilot): This sounds very interesting. It doesn't really sound like an NBC show though. A period piece? Doubt they'll pick it up. Though if they do, I'd check it out.

Kari Lizer project (Kari Lizer). A multi-camera workplace comedy about a relationship-challenged woman who, with the help of her co-workers, guides people through unexpected career transitions and downsizing (comedy, pilot): Sounds kind of like that show they have called Outsourced doesn't it?

Free Agents (John Enbom, Karey Burke, Todd Holland). Based on the UK format, this single camera comedy looks at the attraction between two quirky co-workers who are both on the rebound (comedy, pilot): Yawn.


Dan Goor project (Dan Goor, Gail Berman, Lloyd Braun). A young doctor joins his parents’ medical practice and spends as much time tending to his family as to his patients (comedy, pilot): Yawn.

Lovelives (Chris Sheridan, Peter Chernin, Katherine Pope). A sophisticated multi-camera comedy about two couples and their challenges of love and infidelity (comedy, pilot): Yawn again.


I Hate that I Love You (Jhoni Marchinko). Focuses on a straight couple that introduces two of its lesbian friends to one another – which results in instant attraction and a pregnancy (comedy, pilot): Sounds boring.

Are you there, Vodka? It’s me, Chelsea (Chelsea Handler, Tom Werner, Dottie Dartland Zicklin, Julie Larsen). Inspired by Handler’s best-selling memoir that will focus on the lives of a group of 20-somethings who live and work together with a very outspoken young woman (comedy, pilot): Thirty (opps, Twenty) something, the next generation!

Brave New World (Peter Tolan, Michael Wimer). This single-camera workplace comedy follows a group of unusual characters at Pilgrim Village, a theme park that specializes in recreations of New England in 1647 (comedy, pilot): Unique concept, but it'll probably just turn out to be another dumb comedy.

Ghost Angeles (Henry Alonzo Myers, Josh Schwartz) A young woman speaks to dead people who help her (comedy, pilot): Sounds like Ghost Whisperer, expect the ghosts help her instead of her helping them. lol. And seriously, Ghost Angeles? lol.

My Life as an Experiment (Cathy Yuspa, Josh Goldsmith, Jack Black). A single-camera comedy about a magazine writer who immerses himself and his family in his unusual situations for his stories, which always reflect back on his marriage. It’s based on the book by (former EW writer!) A.J. Jacobs. (comedy, pilot): Interesting concept that'll probably turn out to be a dumb comedy.


Parham/St. Claire project (Lennon Parham, Jessica St. Clair). A woman and her new live-in boyfriend find themselves taking in her distraught and pushy best girlfriend who ends up on their doorstep after a divorce (comedy, pilot): Yawn.

Bent (Ted Quill). Single-camera comedy about a recently divorced Type A single mom who tries hard not to fall for the sexy surfer dude contractor she hires to re-do her kitchen (comedy, pilot): Dude! This sounds awful, man.

Untitled Emily Spivey project (Emily Spivey). A cast-contingent project about parenthood through the POV of an acerbic working mom (comedy, pilot): Um, doesn't some network already have a show called Parenthood? How's this going to be different? lol.

Most of these shows sound awful. I'm disappointed to hear that NBC passed on Munsters. It would have been nice to see a Bryan Fuller show again. *sigh* So basically, I'm hoping the two fantasy shows and the post-Civil War drama get picked up. Hopefully NBC will ignore the rest. Ya, right. :scream::wtf:
 
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