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NBA 2010-2011

This isn't going to console you much, but i don't think there has ever been a team as young as the Thunder who made it this far. If they keep the core group together and tweak just a bit, the rest of the league will be served notice. And get Hardin more involved. They need more of the Beard! :D
 
Oh, the beard has magical powers. It could score baskets by itself, and I think it has. Durant's got to get stronger in the upper body and get more aggressive. He lets them push him around in the paint. He should be doing the pushing.
 
Not surprised Dallas won, they're a team on a mission right now. And after the soul crushing 15 point blown lead for OKC, you kinda figured they'd be done.
 
Not surprised Dallas won, they're a team on a mission right now. And after the soul crushing 15 point blown lead for OKC, you kinda figured they'd be done.

I wonder if Carlisle has had that kind of impact on the team? It wasn't all that long ago where a blown lead like you mention would have led to a loss in the game and then for the series.
 
Anyone sick of LeBron's "angry face" being pasted all over sports news yet?

You know I genuinely liked LeBron when he played for the Cavs but that whole free agency thing just totally turned me off. I thought for awhile he might've actually been a throwback to the good ole days of outstanding but humble NBA greats, but it turns out he's just another arrogant self important baby. He throws the first 3 quarters and then finally gets off his ass and plays the game and everybody shits themselves about how amazing he is... and, the shit about how he walks all the time is pretty justified. It's not hard to spot.

Gotta give him credit for his physical power and endurance - he can pretty much overpower anybody on the court, but he's lazy, sloppy, arrogant and overappreciated. I was a serious Cavs fan when he pissed away their finals berth, but for years before that I was a serious Bulls fan. Admittedly, Chicago just couldn't pull it together - no 3 of their starting line up could have a decent game at the same time. Maybe Rose just wasn't ready yet.

The sad thing about the Heat making it to the finals is that the idea that the Heat can beat the Bulls and possible the Mavs or the Thunder to take home the ring is completely antithetical to the entire concept of team basketball. In the Heat, you don't have a great team - you have 3 great individual players (Bosh, Wade, James) who can basically as a trio account for 70 pts in one game and 3 triple doubles if they play at their best; and if any one of them has an outstanding game, it's pretty much impossible to stand up to. But it doesn't require the whole team play well.
 
Mike Brown is the new Laker coach. I'm going to jump off a bridge.

I don't know if I'd go that far. Brown went to the Finals with Sasha Pavlovic, Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden as starters, and Eric Snow, Damon Jones, Scott Pollard, Ira Newble and Donyell Marshall in the rotation.
 
I wouldn't write the Mavericks off so quickly. They've got a few qualities the Heat doesn't possess, not the least of which is perseverance and emotional maturity. A pretty savvy sports writer conjectured that if either team gets pressed, that the Mavs might bear up better because they are a team while the Heat is a group of 3 that's prone to tantrums and fits. The Heat sulks. The Mavs regroup. Nowitzki keeps his cool a lot better than James.
 
The sad thing about the Heat making it to the finals is that the idea that the Heat can beat the Bulls and possible the Mavs or the Thunder to take home the ring is completely antithetical to the entire concept of team basketball. In the Heat, you don't have a great team - you have 3 great individual players (Bosh, Wade, James) who can basically as a trio account for 70 pts in one game and 3 triple doubles if they play at their best; and if any one of them has an outstanding game, it's pretty much impossible to stand up to. But it doesn't require the whole team play well.
I'm far from a LeBron/Heat fan, but even I find this argument weird. It sounds like your complaint is against the Heat having the same 2-3 players take the majority of the shots and therefore, score the majority of the points.

Every team in the league is set up this way. Every team has 1-2 and sometimes 3, guys who take the most shots every game. This doesn't mean they're not playing team ball, it means that everyone has a role, whether it is taking 20 shots a game and hitting at or around 50% of them, or simply spending 10 minutes on the floor boxing out one guy.

Not playing "team ball" would mean that guys are stepping out of their roles - the rebounders are shooting, the passer is doing more dribbling than passing, the defender is looking for his shot..etc. Teams don't get to the Finals not playing team ball.

The difference with the Heat is that their numbers 1 and 2 scorers are future Hall of Famers and their third is also considered a pretty accomplished pro. (the Lakers are similar with Kobe and arguably, Pau, and Lamar)

Anyway, my point is that the Heat's big 3 scoring 70 points a game is not that unusual. But how many times have you seen an NBA team with just 70 points. The role players have to chip in 20-25 points and EVERYONE has to play defense.

Indeed, the very reason the Heat have gotten this far is because they have been playing great "team ball".
 
But the Mavs have no less than 5 players who can drop 20 points on you in any game. I'm surprised at the level to which the Mavericks are being totally written off.
 
Indeed, the very reason the Heat have gotten this far is because they have been playing great "team ball".

I agree. They've got 3 guys who have had to set aside the alpha dog mentality.

But the Mavs have no less than 5 players who can drop 20 points on you in any game. I'm surprised at the level to which the Mavericks are being totally written off.

I haven't heard anyone say Heat sweep or anything like that. I imagine some of the anti-Mavs sentiment is the fact that they have a history of taking it in the shorts in big spots in the playoffs in past years.
 
Maybe it's because the east coast media normally doesn't give a crap about my area of the country, so you're unfamiliar since you're in New England. I'm here. I've been paying attention to the Mavs. This team isn't soft. Not this year's. They're hoping the Heat dismiss them. It will play nicely into a series victory if they do.

I haven't heard anyone say Heat sweep or anything like that

God, I have. Quite frequently.
 
But the Mavs have no less than 5 players who can drop 20 points on you in any game. I'm surprised at the level to which the Mavericks are being totally written off.
I certainly haven't written Dallas off completely, but it has been my opinion for some time now that the Heat will win the Finals. However, after watching the Mavs' series against the Lakers and Thunder, I am not as sure of it today as I was a few weeks ago. I still believe the Heat will beat Dallas, but an upset won't be as big a shock to me now.

The Mavs are playing the best defense I have ever seen them play but consider, they've done that against a Lakers team suffering from burnout after 3 straight Finals, and a one dimensional inexperienced Thunder team. The Heat are a hungry veteran team desperate for their first (for some) ring. They will be highly motivated (unlike the Lakers) and experienced (unlike the Thunder). Tough combination for the Mavs.

I'm interested to see if the Mavs' 3 pointers continue to fall without the benefit of HCA and some weak defensive rotations (Lakers and Thunder), and if the the Mavs' D will continue to function against some damned good offensive players playing at the tops of their game. Count on Dirk to continue his assault on the rim, but if he were THE difference, the Mavs would likely already have a championship. The key will be the other Mavs - the role players, the bench. Those are the guys who will need to stay steady if the Mavs are to win.
 
It's only one game, but... man, Miami looks to have the athletic kind of defense to be able to harass the Mavs' 3-pt shooters into dormancy. That would mean Dallas would have to go inside more.
 
Holy crap, I feel old now

Shit. I can make you feel much older than that. :evil: If you believe me not, check imdb.com.

Lo, this past April 16 in the year of our Lord 2011, I was driving along innocently listening to my car radio. A local radio jock who fancies himself an entertainment reporter was reporting the celebrity birthdays of that day. April 16. He mentioned an actor by the name of Peter Billingsley. The name might not ring a bell.

Think Red Rider BB gun. Think "You'll shoot your eye out! You'll shoot your eye out!!" Think fuuuuuuuuudge. But I didn't say "fudge." Think tongues on frozen poles and a little brother who never ate voluntarily. You see him? Adorable little blond child in the pink bunny suit that he hated? You remember little Ralphie from "A Christmas Story" who, over the years, became quite the connoisseur of soap. Of course you do.

He's 40. :devil:
 
I know who Peter Billingsley is and how old A Christmas Story is so the joke is completely wasted on me. :)
 
Wow, Dirk showed once again he's on a tear this postseason. Didn't watch the game (Just read about it) but after game one, people were calling him "NoRingski") and I was thinking, wait, isn't this the guy who has been showing it in the playoffs the entire time? I like the fact that this series is tied and hope Dallas takes it at home, since it's now 3 games in Dallas. This might turn out to be a fun series after all.
 
So I said I wasn't gonna watch the Finals. Well I lied. Good to see the Mavs hand it to the Heat with another massive comeback.
 
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